Current Affairs Tommy Robinson Bailed

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Fair enough but I think people are kidding themselves if they pretend not to know what farage is about.

Farage is also an old school toff who hates the working class but hid this whilst campaigning.

Basically a functioning alcoholic but still feels entitled to deride the working classes who follow robinson for getting drunk.

Farage is a far nastier piece of work than Robinson.
You're barking up the wrong tree if you expect me to defend Fararge. I don't think much of him and never have.

I'll just sat this. As far as I'm aware Fararge for all his faults has never been jailed or even charged for anything criminal related. Robinson is trash that has spent numerous stretches in prison for often violent crimes. Things like that tend to effect how people perceive you.
 
You're barking up the wrong tree if you expect me to defend Fararge. I don't think much of him and never have.

I'll just sat this. As far as I'm aware Fararge for all his faults has never been jailed or even charged for anything criminal related. Robinson is trash that has spent numerous stretches in prison for often violent crimes. Things like that tend to effect how people perceive you.

Farage and Robinson are both horrendous individuals who want to stand in the way of the UK becoming a multicultural paradise.
 
It's not trolling though is it? Farage has always exploited immigration when he feels he can score points from it.
Your silly line saying they were standing in the way of the UK becoming a multicultural paradise, as though all our problems as a nation would disappear if they stood aside on that issue was either trolling or just stupid.

You had responded to me when I had condemned both Robinson and Fararge in the last two pages.

The other posts you make speak for themselves and show to anyone who cares to look at them that you're a troll and not even a good one.
 
Your silly line saying they were standing in the way of the UK becoming a multicultural paradise, as though all our problems as a nation would disappear if they stood aside on that issue was either trolling or just stupid.

You had responded to me when I had condemned both Robinson and Fararge in the last two pages.

The other posts you make speak for themselves and show to anyone who cares to look at them that you're a troll and not even a good one.

Of course they would disappear if people stopped drawing attention to any perceived problems.

I would actually be in favour of any news that may adversely affect BEM being labelled as hate crime.
 
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Of course they would disappear if people stopped drawing attention to any perceived problems.

I would actually be in favour of any news that may adversely affect BEM being labelled as hate crime.
The idea that racism would simply disappear if people weren't allowed to express prejudice opinions, or opinions that you and other my perceive to be prejudice out loud is simply absurd.

And how would you oversee such laws? Who would define what type of news was no longer allowed because it may be thought to adversely affect BEM people? Who decides what effects BEM's and what doesn't? What type of punishments would you want given to those you have judged guilty?

Just nonsense, utter nonsense.
 
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I'm just saying Farage is a bona fide 1940s type racist. Anyone trying to show moral integrity by leaving because of robinson has already lost.

It's a tactical point really mate. You're probably right that Farage is more racist, but ultimately he is not a fascist. He's a bit of a maverick Tory who has carved out a bit of a niche for himself critiquing some of the modern moves of the Conservative Party and renouncing the globalistic outlook they have.

Robinson is far closer to being fascist. You can imagine that the storm troopers of the SA would have had a lot of blokes like Robinson around. Not people massively committed to the Nazi ideology but quite willing to have a punch up and from areas of the working class that the trade union movement didn't reach. (Or in Robinson's case he actually owns businesses but you get my point).

Unfortunately most of the discourse around fascism is to present it as ultra-racism. So it's at the end of a scale of racism. It's not a particularly useful frame of reference, because many hardened racists are not fascists, and many fascists are not massively motivated by racism. I've always preferred the paradigm of seeing the social base of the organisation.
The origins of Mussolini's Fasci squads would attack striking workers. They set themselves up as quite a militant opponent of the growing progressive movement in Italy and sought to physically hammer it into oblivion. The Nazi's copied the same strategy (with the SA). The German experience of fascism had a more ideological racist core, the Italian movement much less so, but both sought to control the streets and build a movement to do so.

So what you are saying is correct. However at their core, Farage and Robinson are after very different things. Robinson is looking to build a movement from below to force change. Farage relies upon his charm and skill to do manipulate situations within the bubble of politics. In truth both are a bit of hindrance to the other, hence the conflict.
 
The idea that racism would simply disappear if people weren't allowed to express prejudice opinions, or opinions that you and other my perceive to be prejudice out loud is simply absurd.

And how would you oversee such laws? Who would define what type of news was no longer allowed because it may be thought to adversely affect BEM people? Who decides what effects BEM's and what doesn't? What type of punishments would you want given to those you have judged guilty?

Just nonsense, utter nonsense.

Don't you think that people who are critical of multiculturalism should shut up or be forced to shut up by being interned in 're-education' camps?

I can't believe that you would just let people air their opposition to multiculturalism. Very dangerous.
 
Don't you think that people who are critical of multiculturalism should shut up or be forced to shut up by being interned in 're-education' camps?

I can't believe that you would just let people air their opposition to multiculturalism. Very dangerous.

Yawn clearly not what he said yawn oh it's @Soap zzzzzz telling lies on an internet forum again zzzzzzz
 
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