Today's Football 2018-19 Season

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Liverpool - Gomez, TAA, Milner, Hendo, Sturridge - overall 1 academy player.
Tottenham - Alli, Trippier, Rose - 0 academy
Arsenal - Only Maitland-Niles - 1 academy player
Chelsea - Loftus-Cheek and Barkley - 2 academy players

Overall, Liverpool played with most English players, but Chelsea had most academy players on their side. If we analyse the games deeply, the English players of Spurs and Arsenal, really did not contribute a lot. Especially Arsenal. Maitland-Niles is so far off being from England 1st team quality. Liverpool's English players were instrumental in their comeback, with Hendo & Milner pulling the strings in midfield and TAA playing amazing. Chelsea's Loftus Cheek was arguably their MotM in their game until he had to get subbed off.

With the European campaigns for all these clubs, it's been great development for likes of TAA, Loftus Cheek, Hudson-Odoi and the likes of Kane, Henderson gained huge experience helping their team out.
I never got why people underestimate Milner so much.
 
Our fans?
Jags, Bainesy, Siggy, Richy, Picky, Snides, Keano and didn't some call Pienaar Peanuts? :eek:

I think half of them is us taking the piss. The only one I've actually heard at the match is Jags

Bainesy is just Baines
Siggy I hear Gylfi more
Richy everyone type cos its quicker than typing Richarlison
Picky I ain't heard as everyone says Picko on here or donkey if it's @davek
Snides gets called a fraud
Keano is 50p head
 
Liverpool - Gomez, TAA, Milner, Hendo, Sturridge - overall 1 academy player.
Tottenham - Alli, Trippier, Rose - 0 academy
Arsenal - Only Maitland-Niles - 1 academy player
Chelsea - Loftus-Cheek and Barkley - 2 academy players

Overall, Liverpool played with most English players, but Chelsea had most academy players on their side. If we analyse the games deeply, the English players of Spurs and Arsenal, really did not contribute a lot. Especially Arsenal. Maitland-Niles is so far off being from England 1st team quality. Liverpool's English players were instrumental in their comeback, with Hendo & Milner pulling the strings in midfield and TAA playing amazing. Chelsea's Loftus Cheek was arguably their MotM in their game until he had to get subbed off.

With the European campaigns for all these clubs, it's been great development for likes of TAA, Loftus Cheek, Hudson-Odoi and the likes of Kane, Henderson gained huge experience helping their team out.
Hendo???? Really??? :eek:
 
What a depressing time to be a fan of an English football club that isn't one of the elite. They're so far ahead of the rest of us that it's not even competition anymore. Sure a team could maybe fluke sixth place for a single season but we all know that normal service will be resumed by the following year.

You've got Man City who are two games away from a domestic treble and will be THE team to beat going forward that everyone has to keep up with. They're going to be the team kids all around the world grow up supporting like Man Utd was back in the 90's. They're building a dynasty.

Then you've got the RS filth who with a single league game to go could still potentially win the league if city mess up (I'd brace yourselves for this BTW :(), they've lost only one league game all season and are in the champions league final.

There's Chelsea, who some will argue have had a poor season yet they've still finished safely in the top four, are currently third, have already reached a cup final (lost but still got there) and are braced for a second in the Europa League final.

Then there's Spurs, admittedly they offer hope to the rest of us that it's possible to get to a champions league final and be a stable top four side if run properly and efficiently. Never the less they're still so far ahead of everyone outside the top six that it's difficult to imagine them not being a part of it for the indefinite future.

Arsenal despite having a pretty poor season by their standards and realistically having missed out on the top four (mathematically it might still be possible but nah!) have still reached the Europa League final and did so in style.

Even Man Utd who have had a nightmare of a season are safely entrenched in sixth place. Despite being terrible they're also one of the biggest clubs in the world after having built themslevs into a juggernaut since the 90's. A whole generation of glory hunters support them. They WILL rebuild with obscene money during the summer.

And then there's the rest of us. Sure you could argue that the likes of ourselves, Leicester and one or two others club's are a step above everyone else but those teams are basically all relegation fodder and could all go down and stay down given a bad season. Most of them aren't much better then decent championship clubs.

Honestly, I can't think of a more depressing time in football for the overwhelming majority of clubs. There's very little to look forward to for the vast majority of us..........:(
 
I think half of them is us taking the piss. The only one I've actually heard at the match is Jags

Bainesy is just Baines
Siggy I hear Gylfi more
Richy everyone type cos its quicker than typing Richarlison
Picky I ain't heard as everyone says Picko on here or donkey if it's @davek
Snides gets called a fraud
Keano is 50p head

Some fella behind me at a game last year kept referring to sigurdsson as ‘Siggo’. Although to say he was leathered would be an understatement
 
Honestly, I can't think of a more depressing time in football for the overwhelming majority of clubs. There's very little to look forward to for the vast majority of us..........:(

Generally where you finish in the league is more or less correlated to the money you spend.

Now you could qualify this as there are obvious discrepancies over a season or period, perhaps its better to say the ceiling for where you can finish in the league is correlated to wealth, as you can be big spenders and still fail miserably. Again Leicester broke all the rules, but its best seen as a general rule of thumb than an exact law that always must be correct, sport will always provide the exception to the general rule.

I'm slightly more optimistic than you but essentially stick to the ceiling for most clubs being set by expenditure rule. The problems have been masked over by the complete dominance of the premier league in Europe, but are still there.

I'm looking at next season's top four contenders (not City or Liverpool who are way out in front) and only Spurs look to be at least half well set in their prospects

United - no CL and as has been well documented - total anarchy reigns, going from one crisis to the next and no plan.

Who on this earth though Olé at the wheel a better alternative than the far more difficult chase of Pochettino or even Conté? Rio as a prospective DoF is absolutely farcical, unbelievable, how ludicrously devoid of any semblance of common sense.

Verdict- we could and possibly should finish ahead of them

Arsenal
- IF (and its still an IF) they don't win the Europa then no CL, possible real problems with fixing huge deficiencies at the back and ludicrously selling Ramsey - top players want CL. - a difficult project only partially begun - tbh Chelsea winning the Europa is far better for us, Arsenal becoming a fifth CL side is a gamechanger

Verdict: we can challenge them if they don't get CL

Chelsea
- Yes they have CL but a possible transfer ban and Hazard looks set to leave, An absolutely massive hole to fill - they have a highly unpopular manager and may have to rely on loan players returning

Verdict - we could challenge them

Spurs
- CL but Erikssen could leave and will be difficult to replace. The new stadium will put some limits on finance and their strict wage structure could or will deter top bracket stars.

Poch has again made noises about having a house built just as the furniture look like leaving - possibly a reference to certain stars and himself looking elsewhere. If they actually win the CL then that is massive and rewrites all this, even their remarkable feat of being finalists helps them.

Verdict - we should get a lot nearer them but reaching the CL final will inevitably keep them ahead for a while yet.


Europa League Final? - Chelsea win is best


If as is probable, the Europa final is Chelsea vs Arsenal then a Chelsea win with them already in the CL and no Hazard plus possible transfer embargo suits us far better


Next Season

There could well be three distinct groupings next year

The top two several levels above the rest of the league

The next six - a group of five or six teams comprising the other four of 'the top six' plus ourselves and perhaps Leicester

Followed by the rest with perhaps Watford and Wolves (if they aren't too shot to pieces by their possible Europa campaign) leading, but a significant distance behind the second grouping.

So while City, Liverpool and Spurs are clearly too far ahead atm, although Spurs problems are still plentiful and could still derail them, Chelsea, potentially Arsenal and especially United could go backwards.

We need a reliable striker to really progress, which is a massive ask as everyone wants this. DCL is a massively improved player but still hasn't added the goals or shown enough to think he may do soon. So it's possible we could challenge but it could well be determined by our Sumner business. Our loanees Zouma and Gomes may or may not stay but last seasons signings have improved us.
 
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What a depressing time to be a fan of an English football club that isn't one of the elite. They're so far ahead of the rest of us that it's not even competition anymore. Sure a team could maybe fluke sixth place for a single season but we all know that normal service will be resumed by the following year.

You've got Man City who are two games away from a domestic treble and will be THE team to beat going forward that everyone has to keep up with. They're going to be the team kids all around the world grow up supporting like Man Utd was back in the 90's. They're building a dynasty.

Then you've got the RS filth who with a single league game to go could still potentially win the league if city mess up (I'd brace yourselves for this BTW :(), they've lost only one league game all season and are in the champions league final.

There's Chelsea, who some will argue have had a poor season yet they've still finished safely in the top four, are currently third, have already reached a cup final (lost but still got there) and are braced for a second in the Europa League final.

Then there's Spurs, admittedly they offer hope to the rest of us that it's possible to get to a champions league final and be a stable top four side if run properly and efficiently. Never the less they're still so far ahead of everyone outside the top six that it's difficult to imagine them not being a part of it for the indefinite future.

Arsenal despite having a pretty poor season by their standards and realistically having missed out on the top four (mathematically it might still be possible but nah!) have still reached the Europa League final and did so in style.

Even Man Utd who have had a nightmare of a season are safely entrenched in sixth place. Despite being terrible they're also one of the biggest clubs in the world after having built themslevs into a juggernaut since the 90's. A whole generation of glory hunters support them. They WILL rebuild with obscene money during the summer.

And then there's the rest of us. Sure you could argue that the likes of ourselves, Leicester and one or two others club's are a step above everyone else but those teams are basically all relegation fodder and could all go down and stay down given a bad season. Most of them aren't much better then decent championship clubs.

Honestly, I can't think of a more depressing time in football for the overwhelming majority of clubs. There's very little to look forward to for the vast majority of us..........:(

Apart from all that though mate you have a lovely weekend ;)

I know what you mean and unfortunately there isn't much we can do and we just gotta hope once in a while we are in the running to win something every now and then. Its a case of begrudgingly having to accept it or just completely give up on togger and Everton for good.
 
Liverpool - Gomez, TAA, Milner, Hendo, Sturridge - overall 1 academy player.
Tottenham - Alli, Trippier, Rose - 0 academy
Arsenal - Only Maitland-Niles - 1 academy player
Chelsea - Loftus-Cheek and Barkley - 2 academy players

Overall, Liverpool played with most English players, but Chelsea had most academy players on their side. If we analyse the games deeply, the English players of Spurs and Arsenal, really did not contribute a lot. Especially Arsenal. Maitland-Niles is so far off being from England 1st team quality. Liverpool's English players were instrumental in their comeback, with Hendo & Milner pulling the strings in midfield and TAA playing amazing. Chelsea's Loftus Cheek was arguably their MotM in their game until he had to get subbed off.

With the European campaigns for all these clubs, it's been great development for likes of TAA, Loftus Cheek, Hudson-Odoi and the likes of Kane, Henderson gained huge experience helping their team out.

How is Ross Barkley a Chelsea academy player? Aren't you an Everton fan or is that a stupid question?
 
I think half of them is us taking the piss. The only one I've actually heard at the match is Jags

Bainesy is just Baines
Siggy I hear Gylfi more
Richy everyone type cos its quicker than typing Richarlison
Picky I ain't heard as everyone says Picko on here or donkey if it's @davek
Snides gets called a fraud
Keano is 50p head


Indeed.

And the main point you were making in t’ first place is that the media is full of ex RS using these little chummy pet names.

No one with links to our club or any other club indulges in such sycophancy.
 
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