Today’s Football 2021/22 Season

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A lot of weird things happened last season, we randomly had a good away record, that wasn’t down to doping, it was down to it not being a real football season.

But then, when top 4 was on the line, for that same team who had lost all those games, to suddenly reel off the number of wins they did in a row?

I’ve never seen a swing of form comparable to it from any decent sports team. Mane went from one of the best forwards in the world, to not being able to hit a barn door, to back to being one of the best. They were ready to retire Firmino, that’s how poor he was, and now he’s back inventing the false 9 position again this season.

I know people don’t agree but for me it’s clear as day that they started cycling on midway through the 17/18 season. They stopped after two seasons (which coincided with the lockdown break), and then had their cycling off period when they lost all those games and everyone looked rubbish, and then they started again which has resulted in them going straight back into top form.

City started theirs in 17/18 which is why a team that was 4th then went and put two season of 100 and 99 points together, then cycled off and got beaten by the likes of Norwich at home as Liverpool ran away with the title in double figures, before they then started cycling on again to get back to god like form last season and this season.

Liverpool will win the league again next season, absolutely no doubt about it unless. Chelsea find themselves a decent stash of PEDs.
 
Do you not think that’s odd in its self? A team good enough to put consecutive 90 plus point seasons on the board, who lost one game in one of those seasons, suddenly lost 6 games at home in a row to tat like Burnley Everton and Fulham?

I mean which other even top 6 team loses 6 games in a row at home? But a team that was putting up numbers as the joint greatest premier league side ever?

That’s not even explainable in my book.
Yes I do think its odd but football has always been full of odd stories. Why haven't we reached a league cup final since 1984 when teams like Tramere and Bradford have in that time?
 
No Van Dijk, no Fabinho, no Thiago, no Henderson, no Firmino

Ok not a full B team but that’s still first choice and best cenreback, first choice misfiled three with key holding mid, first choice central striker all out.

The spine of the team. Now we all know the impact losing the spine of the team has had on us. Most premier league sides missing their spine would suffer.

Liverpool went away to a top 6 team, went a goal down and still just utterly motored them, and were still pushing for the winner even with ten men.

When will people start to twig on that these sort of things we’ve seen over the last few seasons aren’t normal in top level sport.

Teams fitness levels should be pretty similar. There should be minuscule fitness advantages in games. Game should be decided on moments of quality with the better teams winning more games over the course of a season but not even game every time and especially not if they’re missing that quality through injury or loss of form.

What we’ve seen from City and Liverpool recently, smothering some of the best teams in the prem even away from home, scoring last minute winners every game, winning runs of over 10 games multiple times, beating very good teams without their best players, playing in Europe then playing a few days later and with the same players decimating another premier league team away from home. Going away to top European teams and smashing them 4 or 5 routinely. Winning leagues without even needing a central striker, 5th choice centrebacks pocketing top opposition strikers after previously looking like a pub player.

These things aren’t normal. Every record under the sun is falling to these two. When I look at their squads I don’t even see generational talents like you could argue Barca Bayern or Madrid have had.

Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Alves, fair enough, just world class players in any era all together at once.

Ronaldo, Modric, Ramos, Kroos, all brilliant in other teams as well and under several other managers and internationally

Neuer Lahm Schweinsteiger Muller, they all won a World Cup as well as everything with Bayern

Salah Mane Van Dijk Robertson Fabinho Wijnaldum and Firmino were all bang average before they joined Liverpool, some of them were already in their mid 20s. Coutinho and Wijnaldum have been bang average since they left as well.

De Bruyne is a worldie, fair enough, but to be completely honest I’d never even really heard of Rodri, Bernardo Silva, Ferran Torres, Dias, Zinchenko before they moved to City. Fair enough if this was Kompany Toure Silva and Aguero setting these records I could maybe buy it a bit more but are these City players really so good that they are up there at the level of those Barca Bayern and Madrid teams? (Who by the way didn’t win as regularly as City and Liverpool have been)

Really ask yourself if you think this is just down to good management, and if so why hasn’t any previous manager in football history been able to recreate this? I mean Ferguson was a genius, had better players than these two, and a less competitive league at times and still couldn’t achieve this sort of dominance, even with his very best teams which player for players are light years above these two sides.

On pure stats these two teams are going to go down as two of the greatest teams in the history of football, and no one thinks it’s odd that they’ve both arrived at exactly the same time, both had a massive dip in form after the same duration of improved form, and both show no signs of slowing down or letting up, just relentless relentless winning. Another season most probably of a plus 90 points score. Remember when this was almost impossible, only achieved by the very best premier league teams? Now it’s getting done most seasons.

People must see this is wrong.

I don’t have the energy to be this bothered by another team.
 
I've said this on here before but I really fail to understand why some Blues insist on watching their games then come on here whingey-arseing when they eventually win.

The bottom line is that lot are going to win a lot more than they lose, so why inflict misery on yourselves by watching it? I give their games a huge wide berth. It's not worth watching them.
 
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Players featured for the RS tonight and their transfer fee:
Henderson £18m (over 10 years ago)
Oxlade Chamberpot £30m+
Keita £50m
Firmino £30m
Minamino £7m
Jota £40m
Konate £36m
Tsimikas £12m

But yeah, plucky kids and B team from a club that doesn't spend.
 
I really fail to understand why some Blues insist on watching their games then come on here whingey-arseing when they eventually win.

The bottom line is that lot are going to win a lot more than they lose, so why inflict misery on yourselves by watching it? I give their games a huge wide berth. It's not worth watching them.
I didn't watch their game,just followed the outcome on an online betting firm,s in-play stats, they get the goals up before tv footage gets to our screens. RS were 25/1 to go through with 93mins on the clock.
 
But then, when top 4 was on the line, for that same team who had lost all those games, to suddenly reel off the number of wins they did in a row?

I’ve never seen a swing of form comparable to it from any decent sports team. Mane went from one of the best forwards in the world, to not being able to hit a barn door, to back to being one of the best. They were ready to retire Firmino, that’s how poor he was, and now he’s back inventing the false 9 position again this season.

I know people don’t agree but for me it’s clear as day that they started cycling on midway through the 17/18 season. They stopped after two seasons (which coincided with the lockdown break), and then had their cycling off period when they lost all those games and everyone looked rubbish, and then they started again which has resulted in them going straight back into top form.

City started theirs in 17/18 which is why a team that was 4th then went and put two season of 100 and 99 points together, then cycled off and got beaten by the likes of Norwich at home as Liverpool ran away with the title in double figures, before they then started cycling on again to get back to god like form last season and this season.

Liverpool will win the league again next season, absolutely no doubt about it unless. Chelsea find themselves a decent stash of PEDs.

So basically any rough patch of form they're cycling off? I'm not naive enough to rule out the possibility of drugs being used in top level football given the money that's at stake, but what you're saying sounds ridiculous. Every team can go through a bad patch of form no matter how good they are.
 
Players featured for the RS tonight and their transfer fee:
Henderson £18m (over 10 years ago)
Oxlade Chamberpot £30m+
Keita £50m
Firmino £30m
Minamino £7m
Jota £40m
Konate £36m
Tsimikas £12m

But yeah, plucky kids and B team from a club that doesn't spend.
Tbf our B team midfield would consist of sigurdsson, Gomes and Gbamin which is over 90 mil
 
So basically any rough patch of form they're cycling off? I'm not naive enough to rule out the possibility of drugs being used in top level football given the money that's at stake, but what you're saying sounds ridiculous. Every team can go through a bad patch of form no matter how good they are.

Yeah teams can, but a patch that bad? With barely no other patches of poor form anywhere else around it over a three and a half season period? Not for me.

Good teams should win draw and lose games sporadically and randomly. Winning runs should be interspersed with a handful of losses and lots of draws. There shouldn’t be winning runs into the teens, then losing 6 at home, then going thirty odd games unbeaten again. It’s not normal sporitng patterns.

I could buy perhaps a few back to back losses to City and Chelsea as a blip potentially, but honestly even we won there, Brighton did, Burnley did, Fulham did, in a row. Surrounded by dropped points to Southampton, Newcastle, West Brom. These are the worst teams in the league. That’s not a random patch of poor form or some covid oddity. That’s a ginormous swathe of a season displaying form so humungously statistically at variance to any of their form that has preceded it or succeeded it. What makes it even more suspect is there’s no obvious causal factor like a change in manager or transfer out of key players which had thrown teams off their perch before (although not to that extent). Klopp was still there, all the players except for a few CBs were still there, and for a few months of time a team that had been the best in the world, played like one that had never seen a football, before then returning to being one of the best in the world.
 
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