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Utter rats to a man.
goodisonopheliac
Player Valuation: £30m
I'm only behind three people: Unsworth, Niasse and Pickford. Everyone else can go to hell.
DanEFC92
Player Valuation: £90m
Blu Bianco
Player Valuation: £1m
No, enough is enough and some kind of reality has to take hold here.
Consistent poor to shocking performances featuring lack of cohesion and basic passing skills. Little to no defending, poor attacking, no closing down, no fight, no care. You can pass some of that off to a manager's poor tactics (be it Martinez, Koeman or Unsworth) etc, but not the no fight, no care. No way!
Time after time we have heard how these players are good players, that its just how they have been set up badly tactics wise or position-wise. Again, that's true to an extent but in the end, if these players are that good then we would see at least something, but we don't even get the bare minimum effort.
If any worker replicated a similar lack of effort and basic skills in whatever employment or position they held then shouldn't questions be asked? Be it of them, or whoever employed them in the first place? There has to be something given or at least offered in return, or else there should be consequences.
As deipnosophist more or less said earlier on in this thread, it is very difficult for many real fans to get a genuine, good feeling about this team. This isn't coming from nowhere, its not blind hatred and its not just a small number of fans.
Its not to say we don't support the club but neither are we going to blindly clap these players while they carry us into the abyss. As any one of them 'good enough' (be it ability wise or those that will pick up a transfer fee regardless through previous reputation) will jump ship and then we will be the ones left with the wreck.
We're not asking them to win the league (idealistically yes maybe!), all we want is some fight and some hunger. Unsworth pleaded with the players to show something for the club today and look what they produced in return! Seriously, if the manager has to say he feels sorry for the fans, then why should the fans give unconditional support?
But that is not to say we should go all toxic on them. It doesn't necessarily mean boo-ing but there has to be some form of protest. They have to know we're not doormats.
Also we should not attach all the blame to the players. The managers have to shoulder some responsibility here too, along with the board, as a vast portion of the blame should go to the wonderful board.
The board that were going to take us places. Yes, through their endless dithering, in-fighting and general amateur handling of the club's affairs, they may very well take us places we don't want to go.
Consistent poor to shocking performances featuring lack of cohesion and basic passing skills. Little to no defending, poor attacking, no closing down, no fight, no care. You can pass some of that off to a manager's poor tactics (be it Martinez, Koeman or Unsworth) etc, but not the no fight, no care. No way!
Time after time we have heard how these players are good players, that its just how they have been set up badly tactics wise or position-wise. Again, that's true to an extent but in the end, if these players are that good then we would see at least something, but we don't even get the bare minimum effort.
If any worker replicated a similar lack of effort and basic skills in whatever employment or position they held then shouldn't questions be asked? Be it of them, or whoever employed them in the first place? There has to be something given or at least offered in return, or else there should be consequences.
As deipnosophist more or less said earlier on in this thread, it is very difficult for many real fans to get a genuine, good feeling about this team. This isn't coming from nowhere, its not blind hatred and its not just a small number of fans.
Its not to say we don't support the club but neither are we going to blindly clap these players while they carry us into the abyss. As any one of them 'good enough' (be it ability wise or those that will pick up a transfer fee regardless through previous reputation) will jump ship and then we will be the ones left with the wreck.
We're not asking them to win the league (idealistically yes maybe!), all we want is some fight and some hunger. Unsworth pleaded with the players to show something for the club today and look what they produced in return! Seriously, if the manager has to say he feels sorry for the fans, then why should the fans give unconditional support?
But that is not to say we should go all toxic on them. It doesn't necessarily mean boo-ing but there has to be some form of protest. They have to know we're not doormats.
Also we should not attach all the blame to the players. The managers have to shoulder some responsibility here too, along with the board, as a vast portion of the blame should go to the wonderful board.
The board that were going to take us places. Yes, through their endless dithering, in-fighting and general amateur handling of the club's affairs, they may very well take us places we don't want to go.
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