Tim Howard

daz4matty · January 2, 2016

mlyons said:
Fine, so let's get someone better. Not someone who's different just for the sake of being different.

We need someone who's better than Howard, and the answer to who that might be is a lot more complicated than "anybody".

January is not the easiest time to sort this problem it should have been done in the summer.
Something has to happen now though,i would go for a loanee then sort the problem in the summer.
Panic buying is not the answer.

Moomin · January 2, 2016

I'd throw a loan bid for Neto at Juve.

mlyons · January 2, 2016

steken1 said:
It's not a big leap. I've said it for years. The sheer number of individual mistakes he makes is unparalleled across the division. That's without highlighting his other shortcomings.

The worst keeper in the league and has been for 2 seasons now..

If it's unparalleled throughout the division, why are there so many keepers who concede more goals even though their teams set up more defensively than we do?

If Howard truly were the worst keeper in the league and we played the way we do, we'd have the worst defensive record in the league by a huge margin, instead of just not being good enough to challenge for Europe.

Dithering Dougie · January 2, 2016

So why does everyone think Martinez persists with Howard if Robles is the better keeper?

Eric Djemba-Djemba · January 2, 2016

mlyons said:
If it's unparalleled throughout the division, why are there so many keepers who concede more goals even though their teams set up more defensively than we do?

If Howard truly were the worst keeper in the league and we played the way we do, we'd have the worst defensive record in the league by a huge margin, instead of just not being good enough to challenge for Europe.

He's toilet.

ijjysmith · January 2, 2016

Dithering Dougie said:
So why does everyone think Martinez persists with Howard if Robles is the better keeper?

The same reason he can't set up a defence properly and doesn't believe that goals from corners are real goals.

I'd imagine.

Dithering Dougie · January 2, 2016

ijjysmith said:
The same reason he can't set up a defence properly and doesn't believe that goals from corners are real goals.

I'd imagine.

Has he ever said that?

And the first season here seemed to indicate he's not naive enough to ignore our defence I'd have thought Ijj?

MACCA75 · January 2, 2016

Martinez is just stubborn. He's shown it with the lack of two wingers every game, as well as the Howard situation.

sageyefc · January 2, 2016

Dithering Dougie said:
So why does everyone think Martinez persists with Howard if Robles is the better keeper?

Because hes a shithouse

Dithering Dougie · January 2, 2016

sageyefc said:
Because hes a shithouse

Oh...

I thought you were a fan of the manager.

steken1 · January 2, 2016

mlyons said:
If it's unparalleled throughout the division, why are there so many keepers who concede more goals even though their teams set up more defensively than we do?

If Howard truly were the worst keeper in the league and we played the way we do, we'd have the worst defensive record in the league by a huge margin, instead of just not being good enough to challenge for Europe.

Setting up defensively and actually being able to execute that plan depends on quality.

I'll put it simply. A conference side may go to Arsenal. They will decide to try and get them back to their ground and set up to defend. Due to individual ability they won't be able to stop arsenal scoring 3 4 5 whatever.

Everton may go there play attacking football but concede 2 soft goals as a result of Tim Howard.

That doesn't mean because he conceded less he's the better keeper.

Goalkeeper is one of the easier positions to judge. It's clear to everyone without stars and striped pyjamas how bad he is.