Tim Howard

[Joey66]

He ousted him the same way he ousted Howard last season -- al Habsi was injured, so Martinez was forced to play Robles. When al Habsi was healthy again, he was right back into the lineup, which is why Robles was back on the bench in Wigan's final Premier League match. It was the same situation as last season.

So that's why Wigan got relegated they dropped Robles, so on that logic we will be in a relegation fight this season!

 

[mlyons]

So that's why Wigan got relegated they dropped Robles, so on that logic we will be in a relegation fight this season!

They actually got relegated in Robles' last match, the second to last weekend of the season.

Look, the point is that no one has seen more of Robles than Roberto Martinez. He's seen him in training every day for three and a half years now and watched him from the touchline in 34 competitive matches. He doesn't think Robles is good enough to be a regular starter, even though he has every incentive to make him one. If under these circumstances he still doesn't think Robles should start, I'm inclined to trust his opinion over that of anyone posting here.

 

[andy4efc]

They actually got relegated in Robles' last match, the second to last weekend of the season.

Look, the point is that no one has seen more of Robles than Roberto Martinez. He's seen him in training every day for three and a half years now and watched him from the touchline in 34 competitive matches. He doesn't think Robles is good enough to be a regular starter, even though he has every incentive to make him one. If under these circumstances he still doesn't think Robles should start, I'm inclined to trust his opinion over that of anyone posting here.

While I partially agree with your point and logic, remember people are forming their opinions on the games we have seen him in, where he has looked solid and at least tries to command his area.

The trust with Howard is completely gone. I'm not saying Robles is the answer but comparison performances Robles has looked better in every department. Surely it would be better for us to play with a keeper the defence can trust to at least give them some help on crossing? To organise.

referring back to your point. It does seem strange that we seem to see a steady keeper when he gets a chance and then be dropped undeservedly, but this can only be due to Martinez' lack of trust.

Very strange situation for me, the Robles in matches and Robles in Training must be two very different animals.

 

[marsh]

They actually got relegated in Robles' last match, the second to last weekend of the season.

Look, the point is that no one has seen more of Robles than Roberto Martinez. He's seen him in training every day for three and a half years now and watched him from the touchline in 34 competitive matches. He doesn't think Robles is good enough to be a regular starter, even though he has every incentive to make him one. If under these circumstances he still doesn't think Robles should start, I'm inclined to trust his opinion over that of anyone posting here.

Or Roberto has his favourites like alot of managers?

 

[mlyons]

I'm still not convinced by the Robles in matches, to be honest. He looked good against Norwich (although not much better than Howard did against them) and Middlesbrough (a Championship club resting the majority of their starters), but only adequate against Reading (another Championship side) and downright awful against Barnsley (a League One side). Five goals conceded in four matches, mostly against lower league sides, doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. Neither does the run in the side last season; even though it culminated in those three clean sheets, we only won one of the eleven matches he played in during that stretch.

The idea that the defense trusts him more than Howard seems like conjecture, too. He's certainly better than Howard at claiming crosses (although he's had his share of flaps in his career, too), but I haven't seen anything that makes me think the defenders are any less likely to make bonehead mistakes with him in goal than with Howard. I still can't get that Barnsley match out of my head, and I doubt Martinez can, either.

 

[mlyons]

Or Roberto has his favourites like alot of managers?

You would think Joel would be one of those favorites, though, wouldn't you? Why else would he try to bring him with him when he changed clubs? One of the very first things Martinez did after taking charge was pay a few million pounds to sign him. Why wouldn't he want him to succeed?

 

[orly]

Or Roberto has his favourites like alot of managers?

He's bought Robles twice, so you'd think he was fond of him...

 

[marsh]

You would think Joel would be one of those favorites, though, wouldn't you? Why else would he try to bring him with him when he changed clubs? One of the very first things Martinez did after taking charge was pay a few million pounds to sign him. Why wouldn't he want him to succeed?

He loves Howard more? Haha

 

[Azzurri]

There's probably a few worse in the league.

That's no reason to accept how poor Howard is.

 

[ijjysmith]

They actually got relegated in Robles' last match, the second to last weekend of the season.

Look, the point is that no one has seen more of Robles than Roberto Martinez. He's seen him in training every day for three and a half years now and watched him from the touchline in 34 competitive matches. He doesn't think Robles is good enough to be a regular starter, even though he has every incentive to make him one. If under these circumstances he still doesn't think Robles should start, I'm inclined to trust his opinion over that of anyone posting here.

Trusting the manager has got to go 11th place.

 

[mglennon]

Robles deserves a chance, I'm sure last time he got a run in team he got 3 clean sheets

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Has anyone mentioned Robles 3 clean sheets today?

 

[Joey66]

They actually got relegated in Robles' last match, the second to last weekend of the season.

Look, the point is that no one has seen more of Robles than Roberto Martinez. He's seen him in training every day for three and a half years now and watched him from the touchline in 34 competitive matches. He doesn't think Robles is good enough to be a regular starter, even though he has every incentive to make him one. If under these circumstances he still doesn't think Robles should start, I'm inclined to trust his opinion over that of anyone posting here.

Ol Big head hey mlyons - The bit we have seen of Robles looks more than ok the more we see of tim is woeful like I said go to specsavers with your band of three other supporters on this thread - by the way are you a clone of Doug by any chance or even related as you spout the same rubbish on Tim?

 

[Joey66]

Has anyone mentioned Robles 3 clean sheets today?

Tim can't Doug!
The amount of games he has played over the last 18 months how many continuous THREE clean sheets as our great no 1 achieved?

 

[daz4matty]

I think howard will be dropped today,martinez is feeling the heat and knows he can't close his eyes anymore to the problem