2025/26 Thierno Barry

Yes just look at Jude Bellingham, the most hyped and highly rated young English player of a generation.

It's not one size fits all. Some players come out the academy as near enough fully formed footballer like Yamal. Some players go the long route but still become elite level players like Harry Kane.

Saying he'll never be prolific because he hasn't hit the ground running moving to the Premier Leage at 22 is just daft. Countless examples of players who moved here at a similar age and took a year at least to settle and adapt, most obvious current example being Mateta.
Ill die on that hill about him not being prolific. Doesn't look a threat in the air, the box or in behind. Doesn't shoot from near or far so far so yeah I'll happily say he's never gonna be prolific and more than happily be proved wrong. He's a handful but we need more than that.
 

Yes just look at Jude Bellingham, the most hyped and highly rated young English player of a generation.

It's not one size fits all. Some players come out the academy as near enough fully formed footballer like Yamal. Some players go the long route but still become elite level players like Harry Kane.

Saying he'll never be prolific because he hasn't hit the ground running moving to the Premier Leage at 22 is just daft. Countless examples of players who moved here at a similar age and took a year at least to settle and adapt, most obvious current example being Mateta.
Also, it doesn't the matter the player I mentioned. Lots of youngsters change country and adapt. Jake O'Brien done OK at Lyon. Another young English CB at Toulouse. All the young unproven lads at Sunderland. I could go on. My point being new country/young age doesn't wash after a time.
 
Ill die on that hill about him not being prolific. Doesn't look a threat in the air, the box or in behind. Doesn't shoot from near or far so far so yeah I'll happily say he's never gonna be prolific and more than happily be proved wrong. He's a handful but we need more than that.
I think so far he's shown he can be handful, but he's not had a massive opportunity to show what else he can do tbh. Yet to see him strike a ball, or have a 1 on 1 with a keeper.

He needs to get used to the physicality of the league. He's very tall and aerial numbers in la liga were top notch. To me he looks to have pace. If he demonstrates finishing ability when given the chance then I dont see why he couldn't be a prolific striker.

Also, it doesn't the matter the player I mentioned. Lots of youngsters change country and adapt. Jake O'Brien done OK at Lyon. Another young English CB at Toulouse. All the young unproven lads at Sunderland. I could go on. My point being new country/young age doesn't wash after a time.
And this is just black and white thinking when the reality is obviously more nuanced. Ligue 1 is a far lower standard than the PL for a start. Being a striker in the PL particularly is one of the hardest jobs in football.

Generally the reasoning just doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Countless examples of players who looked like they would go on to be world class in their early 20's who never hit the heights. Just as many examples of players who started their careers innocuously only to go on to become top players and achieve a lot in football.

It's too early with Barry to have an informed opinion either way.
 
Yes just look at Jude Bellingham, the most hyped and highly rated young English player of a generation.

It's not one size fits all. Some players come out the academy as near enough fully formed footballer like Yamal. Some players go the long route but still become elite level players like Harry Kane.

Saying he'll never be prolific because he hasn't hit the ground running moving to the Premier Leage at 22 is just daft. Countless examples of players who moved here at a similar age and took a year at least to settle and adapt, most obvious current example being Mateta.
Exactly, and people seem to constantly forget the fact that Barry didn't even go to an elite academy - he was playing 3rd division Belgian football three years ago, that was his route in. He'll develop later than most. The amount of football and high level coaching he's had is absolutely years behind most 23 year olds.
Also, it doesn't the matter the player I mentioned. Lots of youngsters change country and adapt. Jake O'Brien done OK at Lyon. Another young English CB at Toulouse. All the young unproven lads at Sunderland. I could go on. My point being new country/young age doesn't wash after a time.
'after a time' being about 2 months and 300 minutes?
 
I think so far he's shown he can be handful, but he's not had a massive opportunity to show what else he can do tbh. Yet to see him strike a ball, or have a 1 on 1 with a keeper.

He needs to get used to the physicality of the league. He's very tall and aerial numbers in la liga were top notch. To me he looks to have pace. If he demonstrates finishing ability when given the chance then I dont see why he couldn't be a prolific striker.


And this is just black and white thinking when the reality is obviously more nuanced. Ligue 1 is a far lower standard than the PL for a start. Being a striker in the PL particularly is one of the hardest jobs in football.

Generally the reasoning just doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Countless examples of players who looked like they would go on to be world class in their early 20's who never hit the heights. Just as many examples of players who started their careers innocuously only to go on to become top players and achieve a lot in football.

It's too early with Barry to have an informed opinion either way.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
 

Judging by his IG post, it just goes to show the immense pressure these players are under, and how much mental health and being comfortable in your environment can dictate, almost as much as raw talent, your likelihood of success.

Who knows what his command of the English language is. How comfortable he is here off the pitch. All of this before the immense challenge of adapting to the unique factors of the Premier League

He's shown enough to see there's something about him. Whether he comes good will be the combination of a number of factors, both on the pitch and off.
 
Sesko WILL NOT succeed in the Prem, just like Hojland. Need a quick brain that kicks in before movement in this league. BOTH havent got it, just like our two. Lineker / Shearer / Haaland had/have that fast brain. YOU HEARD IT HERE!
And Haaland is reported to be worth 180€ to 250€. We need to spend that on an entire team . You heard it here.
 
Not sure if posted before, but he has a YouTube channel chronicling his time in England (amongst other stuff)

Not sure how good an idea these things are but I’m a nosey sod so will be watching.
iirc Onana has / had something similar.
 
Ill die on that hill about him not being prolific. Doesn't look a threat in the air, the box or in behind. Doesn't shoot from near or far so far so yeah I'll happily say he's never gonna be prolific and more than happily be proved wrong. He's a handful but we need more than that.
Just come out the Etihad v the RS. Haaland - Threat in the air. Shoots near and far. Prolific. And certainly a handful. If only! 😄 I'd be happy signing ANY player out of their entire squad.
 
'after a time' being about 2 months and 300 minutes?
Exactly, this is the laughable bit about people writing him off and writing all sorts of negative stuff. He's literally had about 300 minutes in an Everton shirt, most of which were crappy bit part sub appearances. Fulham first game really where he banked a solid 75mins from starting.

Dude is saying "doesn't wash after a time" and writing off player after 300 minutes. Some people just chat absolute nonsense.
 

Also, it doesn't the matter the player I mentioned. Lots of youngsters change country and adapt. Jake O'Brien done OK at Lyon. Another young English CB at Toulouse. All the young unproven lads at Sunderland. I could go on. My point being new country/young age doesn't wash after a time.
Yeah but first season as a 22 year old gets a pass from me. Lots of young players (and lots of experienced players) have poor first seasons in the prem and then flourish afterwards. The fact that some succeed straight away doesn't negate that in any way. I remember a lot of questions marks about Drogba and Bergkamp earlier on in their premier league careers. Strikers is by far the hardest position because you are judged solely on one metric which everyone acknowledges is the hardest to achieve. Scoring a goal. Barry has had enough chances in the last two games to give me encouragement. You can't underestimate how important confidence is.
 
I'm .... we... are all willing him to get his first goal in this league and then an explosive reaction from our supporters. Manchester United next up. A smart ball into the box, the gangly awkward kid gets onto it.....


Give this boy a chance.
 
Exactly, this is the laughable bit about people writing him off and writing all sorts of negative stuff. He's literally had about 300 minutes in an Everton shirt, most of which were crappy bit part sub appearances. Fulham first game really where he banked a solid 75mins from starting.

Dude is saying "doesn't wash after a time" and writing off player after 300 minutes. Some people just chat absolute nonsense.
Agreed. Most of his appearances have been when we are on the back foot too. His link up play was good against Fulham and he did a few excellent turns which makes you think he has something. He got into a great position to score a headed chance and he scored a disallowed goal. The play in the corner when he fell over was embarrassing and I'm not sure what happened but I also remember Lukaku's footwork being extremely clumsy at times and him knocking it out of play for no reason on multiple occasions. And Lukaku was the best striker we have had since Lineker.
 
Not sure if posted before, but he has a YouTube channel chronicling his time in England (amongst other stuff)

Not sure how good an idea these things are but I’m a nosey sod so will be watching.
iirc Onana has / had something similar.

I thought it was really enjoyable and comes across as a hard working young man
 
I thought it was really enjoyable and comes across as a hard working young man
Wasn’t sure on the opening montage of Manchester landmarks to introduce his new club move, or his assertion Lukaku was our highest ever goal scorer.
If that wasn’t bad enough - RED leather seats in his car? RED?!?

But joking aside he does seem like a grafter, that extra hour he spends in the gym after training, I’m surprised he finds time to review the menus from his private chef or get his barnet trim by the private barber in his home salon.
 

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