2018/19 Theo Walcott

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DualityNSNO said:
You're literally suggesting that Onyekuru (no work permit, no idea if he will ever get one) and Lookman (about 6 games for the first team) are going to be better than Theo Walcott here, aren't you?

Madman.
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Never stated any such thing.

What i have consistently written even prior to his signing is that after 1.5 seasons we need to get rid because of his injuries, high wages, age and the fact he relies on pace...

Lookman, Richarlison, Onyekuru, Bernard are just 4 players for 3 positions. You dont go into a 3 man defence with only 4 centre backs, so we would still need another player in there.

The 2 arent mutually exclusive.

Daveysgingerlovechild said:
Ideally you need a mix. Walcott is a seasoned pro with much to offer. For 20 million he was a good buy, given what we chucked at Gylfi and Bolassie. I think he's the least of our signing woes or worries of recent times.
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I agree.

1 -- He is a season pro. One that is reliant on pace and has been playing since he was a teen + has had (and continues to have) frequent injury concerns.

2-- Gylfi and Bolasie should also both be sold. Bolasie now and Gylfi at the same time as Walcott, Jan or next summer.

3-- Having a mix of player age groups makes sense for a team challenging for honours which has deep pockets and can allow those players to come in for £20mil+ for 2 seasons and then see their values disintegrate.

I dont think we can afford it, or want to do that as per Brands recent signing spree...


Connor said:
Anyone seriously suggesting getting shut of him should find another hobby
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Bernard has the potential to be a massive player for us...Richarlison though we have seen in the league last season and the single match yesterday.

They are Silvas choices...

Would you choose to;

1-- Keep Walcott for another 2-3 seasons when he will be 31/32 on £120k a week and a high risk of more frequent injuries + form dropping.

2-- Sell him in Jan to a desperate team for what we paid or higher and hold the money to use in the summer.

3-- Sell him next summer and Brands replaces him with a player he / Silva want u25 years old.

I think anyone choosing option 1 doesnt believe in challenging for honours if hes the best we can hope for...or they think we have unlimited funds.
 

Zatara said:
Never stated any such thing.

What i have consistently written even prior to his signing is that after 1.5 seasons we need to get rid because of his injuries, high wages, age and the fact he relies on pace...

Lookman, Richarlison, Onyekuru, Bernard are just 4 players for 3 positions. You dont go into a 3 man defence with only 4 centre backs, so we would still need another player in there.

The 2 arent mutually exclusive.



I agree.

1 -- He is a season pro. One that is reliant on pace and has been playing since he was a teen + has had (and continues to have) frequent injury concerns.

2-- Gylfi and Bolasie should also both be sold. Bolasie now and Gylfi at the same time as Walcott, Jan or next summer.

3-- Having a mix of player age groups makes sense for a team challenging for honours which has deep pockets and can allow those players to come in for £20mil+ for 2 seasons and then see their values disintegrate.

I dont think we can afford it, or want to do that as per Brands recent signing spree...




Bernard has the potential to be a massive player for us...Richarlison though we have seen in the league last season and the single match yesterday.

They are Silvas choices...

Would you choose to;

1-- Keep Walcott for another 2-3 seasons when he will be 31/32 on £120k a week and a high risk of more frequent injuries + form dropping.

2-- Sell him in Jan to a desperate team for what we paid or higher and hold the money to use in the summer.

3-- Sell him next summer and Brands replaces him with a player he / Silva want u25 years old.

I think anyone choosing option 1 doesnt believe in challenging for honours if hes the best we can hope for...or they think we have unlimited funds.
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Shut up Zat
 
Zatara said:
Did you like that we signed u25 year olds this window or would you prefer we went for 29 year olds?

Because clearly if the strategy is for u25s then its ridiculous to hold onto 2 players who can easily be upgraded with additions at least 5 years younger.
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I'm not bothered about a players age! Old or young if they are good enough they are old/young enough. If a 29 year old is what we need to improve then yeah I will take that. We finally have some money after years of having to watch the pennies so I don't care if we don't make a profit on every player.

Where are you getting this "clearly under 25's strategy" thing from anyway? Because we signed some players who happen to be under that age? Bernard is 25, so is Digne, maybe we should sell him/take them out back and shoot them next year?

What is ridiculous is your judging players on age as opposed to actual ability. You are just as bad as those having a go at Davies, DCL etc only in reverse.
 
Zatara said:
Would you choose to;

1-- Keep Walcott for another 2-3 seasons when he will be 31/32 on £120k a week and a high risk of more frequent injuries + form dropping.

2-- Sell him in Jan to a desperate team for what we paid or higher and hold the money to use in the summer.

3-- Sell him next summer and Brands replaces him with a player he / Silva want u25 years old.

I think anyone choosing option 1 doesnt believe in challenging for honours if hes the best we can hope for...or they think we have unlimited funds.
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Entirely depends on how the season pans out for him. I suppose it's possible that number 3 would be seen as the 'likely' option but it's honestly a big question mark right now. He's been very good for us since he's been here, so for now let's just continue to enjoy it.
 

Talk of selling him is premature given we haven't seen Bernard or Lookman perform in the Premier League yet. Even if we buy someone he still would be good depth
 
He’s not just a pace player. He reads the game better than most, makes the right decisions, and makes the correct runs. Pace is an asset for him but he’s got a lot more than that. Also in a 1v1 situation I’d trust him to finish more than almost anyone we have. Hes a very very good player. Talk of selling is absolutely ludicrous.
 
Zatara said:
Never stated any such thing.

What i have consistently written even prior to his signing is that after 1.5 seasons we need to get rid because of his injuries, high wages, age and the fact he relies on pace...

Lookman, Richarlison, Onyekuru, Bernard are just 4 players for 3 positions. You dont go into a 3 man defence with only 4 centre backs, so we would still need another player in there.

The 2 arent mutually exclusive.



I agree.

1 -- He is a season pro. One that is reliant on pace and has been playing since he was a teen + has had (and continues to have) frequent injury concerns.

2-- Gylfi and Bolasie should also both be sold. Bolasie now and Gylfi at the same time as Walcott, Jan or next summer.

3-- Having a mix of player age groups makes sense for a team challenging for honours which has deep pockets and can allow those players to come in for £20mil+ for 2 seasons and then see their values disintegrate.

I dont think we can afford it, or want to do that as per Brands recent signing spree...




Bernard has the potential to be a massive player for us...Richarlison though we have seen in the league last season and the single match yesterday.

They are Silvas choices...

Would you choose to;

1-- Keep Walcott for another 2-3 seasons when he will be 31/32 on £120k a week and a high risk of more frequent injuries + form dropping.

2-- Sell him in Jan to a desperate team for what we paid or higher and hold the money to use in the summer.

3-- Sell him next summer and Brands replaces him with a player he / Silva want u25 years old.

I think anyone choosing option 1 doesnt believe in challenging for honours if hes the best we can hope for...or they think we have unlimited funds.
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There are priorities though aren't there mate. Walcott gives Silva exactly what he wants and will want for the next 2 years in all likelihood. If that can allow us time to recruit and begin to develop an upgrade then I am all for it, but he is the best/most consistent/most reliable option in his position outside the top 6 teams.

He hasn't played as many games as you think, seems quite fresh and has done well since he's come. It's also worth noting, as we blood more young players, having some who are in their prime years (just about) is worthwhile.
 
Honestly hope he scores a hatrick next week and lifts his t-shirt with the message "Sniff it Zat".

Its nice to see that thankfully it only appears to be Zat who wishes to sell him.

I mean in 2 years if his pace has gone and he doesnt produce anymore im sure we will all want rid, but for now hes 1 our better players and it would be utterly stupid to sell him unless we had a replacement ready to step in and take his place.
 

Why is it when we sign a player for a certain position some say right let’s bin off Walcott because we have Bernard.

What happens if Bernard is too lightweight for this league and struggles to adapt.
Like Klaasen.

Like what Marco said in pre match interview the new players have to prove that they are ready and he needs to respect the lads who have done a proper pre season
 
kiss the crest said:
Why is it when we sign a player for a certain position some say right let’s bin off Walcott because we have Bernard.

What happens if Bernard is too lightweight for this league and struggles to adapt.
Like Klaasen.

Like what Marco said in pre match interview the new players have to prove that they are ready and he needs to respect the lads who have done a proper pre season
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Bernard has played almost 300 games in his career, hes played on the right side just over 10 times, hes currently played ZERO games in the Premier League, but sure, he will DEFO be able to play Right Wing for us.
 
Walcott at this point should still be starting (although I do want see Lookman and Bernard to get there fair share of game time), could/should have had two on Saturday if he'd been found when we were countering, can see him getting double figures in the league this season
 
carolinablue232 said:
He’s not just a pace player. He reads the game better than most, makes the right decisions, and makes the correct runs. Pace is an asset for him but he’s got a lot more than that. Also in a 1v1 situation I’d trust him to finish more than almost anyone we have. Hes a very very good player. Talk of selling is absolutely ludicrous.
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He doesn’t read the offside flag very often. Gets caught way too much for a winger.
 

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