Current Affairs The Would Be Emperor Has No Clothes (aka POTUS 47)

[Spadge Vernacular]

So, that's a yes then.

What a sad bunch you are.

Angry left sucks.

I think it is more a case of people in general having valid concerns about him, as opposed to some angry left cohort. The proof will be in the pudding, maybe he will surprise everyone and do good things, or maybe he will be deceptive and do whatever cements his control and inflates his bank balance. Time will tell but I think it is reasonable for people to have concerns given the evidence so far.

 

[NeilMorepies]

I think it is more a case of people in general having valid concerns about him, as opposed to some angry left cohort. The proof will be in the pudding, maybe he will surprise everyone and do good things, or maybe he will be deceptive and do whatever cements his control and inflates his bank balance. Time will tell but I think it is reasonable for people to have concerns given the evidence so far.

He’s already said he’s abolishing Education and using a Pantone chart as a basis for mass deportations.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

He’s already said he’s abolishing Education and using a Pantone chart as a basis for mass deportations.

He's said a lot of outlandish things but I wonder how much of that was simply performance to mobilise fear and concerned voters.

 

[wandyr79]

Are you babies really gonna cry about Trump for the next four years?

Yes, are we not allowed to. There was me thinking he was for freedom of speech.

 

[LostLegend]

So, that's a yes then.

What a sad bunch you are.

Angry left sucks.

Aww bless. You’re trying so hard aren’t you?

 

[MrPerfectNot]

Oh my - Holy F-ing Stupid, Batman - Trump is naming Kristi Noem as Secretary of Homeland Security.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[davek]

When was Hitler rehabilitated?

new one on me that one.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I tell thee, I've read, heard and seen an awful lot on Trump and what he may or may not do across a variety of mediums this last week or so. A lot feels like the familiar overwrought products of our 24hr news cycle and every idiot on social media age.

Part of me wants to dismiss much of it as hyperbole and angst. But that's dangerous. Because he and the right wing do need to be watched and held accountable. It's just sorta hard to see the woods for the trees with all the noise. Which possibly suits certain factions down to the ground.

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

So, that's a yes then.

What a sad bunch you are.

Angry left sucks.

You can always look for another forum.

 

[Yarrgh]

So he voted for someone a lot like Hitler? Hmmnn.

Hmmnnn.

Hmmmnnnnn.

 

[LostLegend]

So I brought this up in the election thread shortly before it was closed, but thought it was worth revisiting.

Honest question.
Where are they planning to deport them to? (In regards to the mass deportations)

I mean, you can't just dump a load of people you want to deport in another country without that countries approval.

You'd have to strike some sort of deal, which will probably cost an ungodly amount of money.

All sounds about as hokey as the UK's Rwanda plan.

It feels like "We're gonna build the wall and Mexico is gonna pay for it" Mk.II

A lot of Trumps election policies feel like good soundbites with little substance.
The border wall for instance, they never got Mexico to pay for it and once they realised A) how incredibly expensive it was and B) that it isn't very effective at keeping people out, the work on it slowed.

The logistics for the mass deportation plan has even more pitfalls. Using the Conservatives failed plan at flying immigrants out to Rwanda as a guide, the issues are that you have to have an agreed destination to send people to. You can't just land a plane full of immigrants at a Mexican airport and expect them to take them in. There needs to be a pre-agreed deal. One that will usually involve lots of money and some sort of other concessions.

There's also the legal and moral aspect to mass deportations, which is why a lot of people here baulked at the Rwanda plan.

I imagine there'll be a few flights to some pre-agreed country, they'll realise it's costing an ungodly amount of money for not much of an impact and then let the plan fade off into the night just like the border wall.

Ideally, if you want to better regulate the southern border, better funding, manpower and resources to the border force working there along with a better planned and funded cooperative effort with Mexico to police their side of the border and crack down on the cartel smuggling gangs would likely be more effective.

I can also envisage Biden's border security bill making a reappearance under a different name with the GOP taking credit for it.

 

[Huyton Layne]

EPA getting gutted. Woot woot.

 

[WA Toffee]

Are you babies really gonna cry about Trump for the next four years?

Someone should maybe start a thread about all the positive things Trump is doing, just for balance. Are you man enough?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

From Russia with something.

MOSCOW, November 11. /TASS/. In his future policies, including those on the Russian track US President-elect Donald Trump will rely on the commitments to the forces that brought him to power, rather than on election pledges, Russian presidential aide Nikolay Patrushev told the daily Kommersant in an interview.

"The election campaign is over," Patrushev noted. "To achieve success in the election, Donald Trump relied on certain forces to which he has corresponding obligations. As a responsible person, he will be obliged to fulfill them."

Trump to rely on forces that brought him to power — Russian presidential aide

Nikolay Patrushev agreed that Trump, when he was still a candidate, "made many statements critical of the destructive foreign and domestic policies pursued by the current administration"

tass.com