Current Affairs The Would Be Emperor Has No Clothes (aka POTUS 47)

[Noisy noise annoys]

No, I said the outbreak is getting closer to Fauci. I did not say Fauci is incontrovertibly behind the outbreak.

Loool - practically the same thing if it was close to him ffs

 

[PercyPlant]

Exactly, somehow, all the western worlds governments and eminent maidcal professionals, despite not getting along on the world stage, were all in on it and no one else ever found out.

LOOOOOOOOONS

You can add that subhuman scumbag trump to that. He was and is desperate to claim credit for the vaccine, but knows the majority of his support (knuckle dragging morons) are in to this YouTube nonsense (who funnily enough get all angry about “free speech” being denied)

We live in the stupidest era, people are absolutely desperate to go against the trend. It started in the 80’s with the “shockjocks” through to things like Aidrain Durham on TalkSport and now everyone is determined to be “edgy” and “against the trend”

It’s all utter guff.

 

[tsubaki]

You can add that subhuman scumbag trump to that. He was and is desperate to claim credit for the vaccine, but knows the majority of his support (knuckle dragging morons) are in to this YouTube nonsense (who funnily enough get all angry about “free speech” being denied)

We live in the stupidest era, people are absolutely desperate to go against the trend. It started in the 80’s with the “shockjocks” through to things like Aidrain Durham on TalkSport and now everyone is determined to be “edgy” and “against the trend”

It’s all utter guff.

The Fisher King highlighted all of that sort of thing of course, but sadly it was wildly inaccurate in that the plot assumed someone responsible for a disaster would feel ashamed by it afterwards.

 

[Rita_Poon]

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

woke - enemy
off the books labourers - enemy
lgbtq - enemy
women who want dominion of their own bodies - enemy
canada - enemy
mexico - enemy
colombia - enemy
denmark - enemy
labour - enemy
green energy - enemy
hollywood - enemy
history - enemy
medicine - enemy

5 days in. This could get real fun real quick.

I would love you to update this every so often, would be even more alarming for sure

 

[Rita_Poon]

I would love you to update this every so often, would be even more alarming for sure

He's going to end up Lex Luther.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

He's going to end up Lex Luther.

He already looks like Lux Leather

 

[Walken]

I thought this thread would be a good place for healthy adult discussion and debate.

Unfortunately, all I've found is a thread mainly occupied by nasty, childish keyboard warriors who get off on ridiculing anyone not in their bubble.

Shame

Such a terrible terrible shame...

 

[PercyPlant]

I thought this thread would be a good place for healthy adult discussion and debate.

Unfortunately, all I've found is a thread mainly occupied by nasty, childish keyboard warriors who get off on ridiculing anyone not in their bubble.

Shame

You should check out Rapist Trumps truth social posts. He messages just like this.

 

[verreauxi]

Ah! One scientist

And that article doesn't actually state what our idiot-troll is indicating. The scientist is much more nuanced about what can/cannot be known.

For example:

taz: In any case, they believed in a natural origin.
Drosten: I still think that's likely, and almost all scientists who are working on the topic also assume that. But assuming doesn't mean knowing.
taz: What do you mean by scientists who are involved in this?
Drosten: These are scientists who research in the specific field and have detailed knowledge. In contrast, some experts argue from a distant perspective, without detailed knowledge. They are certainly good scientists in their field, but not in this one.
taz: And what do the scientists with detailed knowledge say?
Drosten: Everything actually fits together: The early infections had a spatial connection to the market. That's where the intermediate hosts, raccoon dogs, were, and the virus was found in the market where these animals were sold. The two early virus lines that started the pandemic were also found in the market. These lines are slightly different and do not go back to a known common ancestor in humans. So it is quite likely that humans acquired the virus several times, and that is more consistent with infections in a group of animals than in the laboratory. Of course, the market animals could also have become infected from infected humans, but it is more likely that humans infected animals, as was the case with Sars-1.
**
taz: If you now say that this virus may have come from the laboratory after all, that will cause an uproar.
Drosten: I wouldn't postulate that directly. But it's not the same if we don't have proof of a natural origin in 2020 as if we still don't have that proof in 2025.

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And of course, an accidental lab-leak doesn't have anything to do with Fauci, and also that CIA story is actually old news (broke in 2023) and the CIA's own assessment of the accidental lab-lead was "low confidence." But there are different levels to the "lab-leak" hypothesis (as covered ad nauseum in the COVID thread): an accidental lab-leak with no cover-up by the Chinese government; an accidental lab-leak with a cover-up by Chinese officials; a deliberate lab-leak by Chinese officials + cover-up, etc. As well as a zoonotic origin.

But again, none of this has anything to do with Fauci...the right-wing clowns are just following and fueling another one of Trump's retaliation-tantrums because they pretend to be deep thinkers when they are some of the most embarrassingly dumb, specious clowns ever to possess a monthly internet bill.

More generally, at least for me, there is no reason to try to argue with someone who continually posts in bad faith, especially when they make racist posts. There is nothing to be gained from it.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

And that article doesn't actually state what our idiot-troll is indicating. The scientist is much more nuanced about what can/cannot be known.

For example:

taz: In any case, they believed in a natural origin.
Drosten: I still think that's likely, and almost all scientists who are working on the topic also assume that. But assuming doesn't mean knowing.
taz: What do you mean by scientists who are involved in this?
Drosten: These are scientists who research in the specific field and have detailed knowledge. In contrast, some experts argue from a distant perspective, without detailed knowledge. They are certainly good scientists in their field, but not in this one.
taz: And what do the scientists with detailed knowledge say?
Drosten: Everything actually fits together: The early infections had a spatial connection to the market. That's where the intermediate hosts, raccoon dogs, were, and the virus was found in the market where these animals were sold. The two early virus lines that started the pandemic were also found in the market. These lines are slightly different and do not go back to a known common ancestor in humans. So it is quite likely that humans acquired the virus several times, and that is more consistent with infections in a group of animals than in the laboratory. Of course, the market animals could also have become infected from infected humans, but it is more likely that humans infected animals, as was the case with Sars-1.
**
taz: If you now say that this virus may have come from the laboratory after all, that will cause an uproar.
Drosten: I wouldn't postulate that directly. But it's not the same if we don't have proof of a natural origin in 2020 as if we still don't have that proof in 2025.

**********************

And of course, an accidental lab-leak doesn't have anything to do with Fauci, and also that CIA story is actually old news (broke in 2023) and the CIA's own assessment of the accidental lab-lead was "low confidence." But there are different levels to the "lab-leak" hypothesis (as covered ad nauseum in the COVID thread): an accidental lab-leak with no cover-up by the Chinese government; an accidental lab-leak with a cover-up by Chinese officials; a deliberate lab-leak by Chinese officials + cover-up, etc. As well as a zoonotic origin.

But again, none of this has anything to do with Fauci...the right-wing clowns are just following and fueling another one of Trump's retaliation-tantrums because they pretend to be deep thinkers when they are some of the most embarrassingly dumb, specious clowns ever to possess a monthly internet bill.

More generally, at least for me, there is no reason to try to argue with someone who continually posts in bad faith, especially when they make racist posts. There is nothing to be gained from it.

You’re right, about engaging with these people. I always tell myself that they can learn from our responses but, in reality, very few people change their ways after an internet discussion


Taking the piss out if them is fun though

 

[Huyton Layne]

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A little solace as the world burns

 

[verreauxi]

You’re right, about engaging with these people. I always tell myself that they can learn from our responses but, in reality, very few people change their ways after an internet discussion


Taking the piss out if them is fun though

The last part of my post wasn't directed at you, I was speaking more generally, and offering my opinion of ignore versus engage, but that's not advice even I've followed in the past!

 

[TrachyBlue]

The accepted rule for researching news is, no tabloids, but look at the likes of established publications like The BBC, The Times, The Guardian, the FT, the independent, Reuters, the telegraph and major news networks like CNN or NPR etc. Broadsheet bias gives a view of both sides of the political world.

Agreed, but the independent has become quite right wing recently.

 

[TrachyBlue]

You should check out Rapist Trumps truth social posts. He messages just like this.

Ye. We are all so nasty to fascists!