The Squad?????

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Neiler said:
Maybe mate but nothing eases the pain like winning and people praiseing your performences (*Que Daivd Moyes has turned me into a more compleate player article). He gives us good balance in midfeild at the mo and maybe indeed even into the future in midfeild. Im not overly convinced of him at centre half to be honest and think his gifts may be more effective a little further up the park.

Any how for 55k week we will play where hes told - somoeone asked where the big bang came from yesterday - would have to be a blow out between Moyes and the Heit.

Has he won you around mate?
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Agreed. (y)
Except that I heard it was from a shoulder barge between Heit and the Yak... :lol:
 

Neiler said:
Maybe mate but nothing eases the pain like winning and people praiseing your performences (*Que Daivd Moyes has turned me into a more compleate player article). He gives us good balance in midfeild at the mo and maybe indeed even into the future in midfeild. Im not overly convinced of him at centre half to be honest and think his gifts may be more effective a little further up the park.

Any how for 55k week we will play where hes told - somoeone asked where the big bang came from yesterday - would have to be a blow out between Moyes and the Heit.

Has he won you around mate?
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Can't deny he impressed and surprised me big time since moving here. Was quite sceptical about his chances to be first choice at any position when everyone was fit. Thought he'd be no more than a back up, but I'm glad to be proven wrong. As I said yesterday in another thread, I really believe he found his home away from home and genuinly loves playing for us.
 
Dutch Toffee said:
Can't deny he impressed and surprised me big time since moving here. Was quite sceptical about his chances to be first choice at any position when everyone was fit. Thought he'd be no more than a back up, but I'm glad to be proven wrong. As I said yesterday in another thread, I really believe he found his home away from home and genuinly loves playing for us.
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Never know there may be a world cup winners medal at Goodison next year!!:)
 
Adding one or two quality players each year would be fine.

However, having no money, that's rather difficult to do.


And our squad isn't small. We have about 20 players who could do a capable job in the first team, plus youngsters.
 

best little spaniard said:
Adding one or two quality players each year would be fine.

However, having no money, that's rather difficult to do.


And our squad isn't small. We have about 20 players who could do a capable job in the first team, plus youngsters.
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I take exception to that mate i was once a youngster!:lol:

There is a bit of talk of an Everton takeover by a Saudi Royal family on a certain other football forum not sposored by extrabet.com, i wouldnt advice it though!
 
Neiler said:
I take exception to that mate i was once a youngster!:lol:

There is a bit of talk of an Everton takeover by a Saudi Royal family on a certain other football forum not sposored by extrabet.com, i wouldnt advice it though!
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If it's not extrabet, i dont want to know
 

Why don't you rate John H at centre back Neil? He's looked fairly solid defensively and has the best distribution of any of our centre backs, current or recent. In my opinion he'd be wasted in midfield, it makes such a difference having defenders that can actually play football.
 
We need two more quality signing in the summer, number wise we do need 3/4 more squad player which could do a job, when we got some injuries.

I do have faith Coleman would be a pretty good solution for us in the RB position, after Lescott left we need to find a quality replacement in the summer, Distin is pretty old already, and Yobo is getting toward there as well, only Jagielka & Heitinga are in there prime years, let's hope Duffy would be our next big things after Rodwell.

We had a major problem when Baines was out injured this season, we did not have a back-up for Baines, so, we need to find a back-up player for LB position, we can't afford to played badly whenever Baines was injured.

Again is going to be RM is the position we need to find a big signing for next season, when Donovan played for us in the RM position we could clearly see what a big difference it make, we have Osman, Rodwell, Arteta, Heitinga, Bilyaletdinov & Pienaar who could all do a job in the middle, so, I did say middle is not a major concern.

Same goes with LM we have Pienaar & Bilyaletdinov who could do a job, for ACM or striker, we have Cahill, Yakubu, Saha, Anichebe, Vaughan & Agard, it should be ok for the next season or two, but whether or not Anichebe, Vaughan & Agard would get to the same standard of Yakubu & Saha is a cause of concern, but aren't we suppose to be getting "Beckford" from Leeds in the summer when his contract expires?

I did say our two big signing need to be RM who are at least at the same standard of Donovan & CB who are in the same standard of Jagielka.

There are two must signed squad player are LB back-up to Baines & LM back-up to Pienaar.

If the Beckford signing do get completed on July 1st, that would be a squad player signing for the striker department.

Goalkeeper would be another signing we need to be making once Nash contract ends, aren't we goin to complete the signing of Jan Mucha in the summer once his contract end?

After the signing of Beckford & Mucha, if we could sign a RM, CB, LB & LM in the summer, then I think we are ready to challenge for a CL place next season and hopfully winning the Carling cup or F.A. Cup?
 
Brownie said:
Why don't you rate John H at centre back Neil? He's looked fairly solid defensively and has the best distribution of any of our centre backs, current or recent. In my opinion he'd be wasted in midfield, it makes such a difference having defenders that can actually play football.
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Its not so much that i dont rate him in praticular mate, i dont rate any of our defenders at all this season - they have all been poor as a unit.

Thats what surprises me about people focussing on strikers etc, when quite clearly on average we are scoring two a game but conceading just as many. Our deficincey hasnt been in creating or putting away chances, but rather giving teams chances against us. I have decided not to be hasty in writing of any of our players at the back this season, as there are mitigating circmstances - injuries, lack of consistencey in partnerships and the whole team being less solid. But for me i cant remember a season under Moyes where teams are gaurenteed 5 -10 chances against us and the defence as a unit (and often times individualls playing there) have been culpable and i include Johnny in that.

Like i say - they have all been slated at one stage or another praticularly Distin and Yobo - which for me is a bit harsh given the context. Yet the fact remains despite the whole team being open and a marked change in our style of play, individually there have been hugh errors in defence and poor performences that can not be excused and i include Johnny in that. His displays have been more encourgaeing then others, but i have noticed times he has been indecisive of wheather to go to the ball or the man, or has been cuaght flat footed or wildly out of position - he has done a lot of positive things also yet there is definitely room for improvement in his game as a defender. It is important not to mask over these areas of improvement becuase of his attributes in distribution or his vision. Our clean sheet record this season speaks for itself and i dont think any of our defenders desreve a pat on the back to be honest.

Which brings me to the point of why i would like to see him in a midfeild slot. The whole team has been far to open this season the majority of the goals scored against us this season have been on the counter if you look at them. Why? Becuase of how we play really. In pocession at times we can have as many as 8 outfeild players in forward positions leaving a massive amount of space infront of our two centre backs as the last men, often the full backs are cuaght to far forward and it leaves our centre halfs with a decsion to make to stick or cover - this can often happen when they are out numbered.

The truth is we play better when we play with an anchor midfeilder to gaurd against the counter - Carsley - Neville -Heitinga. Moyes tried to play Rodwell there at the start of the season but it didnt really happen for the lad, nor do i think its his best position. That role gives the team balance and a solidity and makes us less vulnerable on the counter.

As effective as Carsley and Neville have been playing there Heitinga has something that neither had which is high quality in distribution, and vison, combined with a natural tenacity and talismanic leadership qualites. He could be the evolution to that role we have all craved since we first uttered the word "Carleys replacement". Like Fellaini last season you can see the potential in him and im convinced he can be become a high quality player in that position, rather then just being a good centre half - which on what i have seen so far is all i think he may be at centre half. He could be the lynchpin of our team i beleive for years to come there.

That said i still dont think he is 65% the player he is going to be, he still has bags of development and potential to tap into for me - but its there.
 
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