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You think I'm too gloomy, I need to introduce you to Davek and Tubey.
Coach
Player Valuation: £30m
I don't support a bank I support a football team.
FFS...
Michaelcoyb
Transfer Window Time Keeper
There has been so many positive kneejerk threads lately. Cant we be winning and stay sane at the same time?
wandyr79
Player Valuation: £30m
We are mixing up our play beautifully, when it needs to Fell it does, when it needs a fast break we do, when the play requires a slow patient build up we are doing that and when it requires slick one touch pass & move moments we are doing it.
For that reason we are playing the best football and have the potential to continue it for a while yet.
Ihaters
Player Valuation: £35m
Probably less than there are knee jerk negative ones when we lose.
I would rather people were claiming we are boss and going to win the greatest club ever award because we beat Norwich and West Ham in consecutive matches than we claim we are going to get relegated because we get a draw adn a defeat agsint Stoke and Man City.
What's wrong with a little optimism?
Every time i see this thread title in the list i just think 'RAWK'.
Forty years of hurt...
I'm all for looking at things optimistically but any recent closing of the 'gap' (don't mention last season!) has more to do with their relative underperformance and loss of their preeminent position in English football than any great strides on our part.
Up to the start of the 1970s Everton had won more cups, league championships and derbies than the red****e. But, when they became dominant they put the pedal to the metal and left us trailing in their wake. Even in our 80s glory years, they were the lurking nemesis. When we won the league, they won their first double, FFS!
Most of us, throughout our lives have suffered in the shadow of the fcukers. Let's not come over all kopite and start skewing statistics to support spurious statements as FACT. Leave that to those deluded [Poor language removed]. Next we'll be doing league tables of woodwork strikes. Keep it real. Keep it dignified. Keep it Everton.
Let's talk when we win something, or trample them into the Goodison turf (I wish!!). Meanwhile, let's console ourselves with the great Labby's words: 'Remember, lads. One Evertonian is worth 20 Liverpudlians.' And a message for BrenTan Rodgers: The manual. Page 181: Kopites are ********s.
I'm all for looking at things optimistically but any recent closing of the 'gap' (don't mention last season!) has more to do with their relative underperformance and loss of their preeminent position in English football than any great strides on our part.
Up to the start of the 1970s Everton had won more cups, league championships and derbies than the red****e. But, when they became dominant they put the pedal to the metal and left us trailing in their wake. Even in our 80s glory years, they were the lurking nemesis. When we won the league, they won their first double, FFS!
Most of us, throughout our lives have suffered in the shadow of the fcukers. Let's not come over all kopite and start skewing statistics to support spurious statements as FACT. Leave that to those deluded [Poor language removed]. Next we'll be doing league tables of woodwork strikes. Keep it real. Keep it dignified. Keep it Everton.
Let's talk when we win something, or trample them into the Goodison turf (I wish!!). Meanwhile, let's console ourselves with the great Labby's words: 'Remember, lads. One Evertonian is worth 20 Liverpudlians.' And a message for BrenTan Rodgers: The manual. Page 181: Kopites are ********s.
I think we've finished above them twice in what 20 years and the occasions we have they've won the champions league and a league cup & Since our last trophy they've won what 6 or 7 ?
For me I'm glad to have finished above them last year but I think i'd rather have celebrated a trophy . We've got a couple of games ahead that'll give us an idea of where our aspirations lay but I wouldn't really consider a power shift until we consistently start getting results against them but more inportantly finishing above them and securing a trophy or two.
For me I'm glad to have finished above them last year but I think i'd rather have celebrated a trophy . We've got a couple of games ahead that'll give us an idea of where our aspirations lay but I wouldn't really consider a power shift until we consistently start getting results against them but more inportantly finishing above them and securing a trophy or two.
Ihaters
Player Valuation: £35m
I hate this negativity, kopites don't have it beause as a club they breath success, they have an arrogance that breeds contempt but also confidence from staff, through team, through fans.
We however sit there and say "look I know we are playing the best we have for years and have been ace for at nigh on a year now, but lets not get excited, lets sit here and wait for it to collapse.. it will.. any second now.. wait for it.. wait for it..."
Some of us don't want to wait for it, some want to go...YES!!!!!.. this is the football we have wanted to watch and I am loving it... but that's no good, we get told to pipe down and be miserable.. well fk the lot of you... I am waiting no more, 3rd best over an entire year and you still can't get roused for the fight, no wonder Goodison's like a library on extra quiet days at time.. Enough.. COYB!!!!! We're F'KIN BOSS!!!!! Lets go win something. Join me or don't, just don't stand in our way of celebrating Everton bossnes.
We however sit there and say "look I know we are playing the best we have for years and have been ace for at nigh on a year now, but lets not get excited, lets sit here and wait for it to collapse.. it will.. any second now.. wait for it.. wait for it..."
Some of us don't want to wait for it, some want to go...YES!!!!!.. this is the football we have wanted to watch and I am loving it... but that's no good, we get told to pipe down and be miserable.. well fk the lot of you... I am waiting no more, 3rd best over an entire year and you still can't get roused for the fight, no wonder Goodison's like a library on extra quiet days at time.. Enough.. COYB!!!!! We're F'KIN BOSS!!!!! Lets go win something. Join me or don't, just don't stand in our way of celebrating Everton bossnes.
Andriy.EFC
Player Valuation: £8m
I try to look at things objectively.
We're in top form right now. Our first XI is very strong. We have managed to hold on to some boss players. But I fear this will be our peak season. Rumors about Fellaini wanting out, etc. We need to qualify for the CL to continue to progress.
Liverpool, meanwhile, are in a transition phase. They have a few very, very, good young players (Sterling, Shelvey, Suso, Allen, Sahin if they can hold on to him). They will be a force again in a few years if they actually stick with one good manager. They are not a force right now because they let Daglish completely screw them over by spending 100m quid on gash players like Carroll, Downing, Adam, and Henderson. If they had actually spent that money well, they'd be competing at the top of the table. Abramovich went and gifted them 50m to spend by buying a player who was clearly on the decline, and they squandered it all. They should be livid with that.
But they're still a far bigger club than us on the global scale. They have a nice stadium. They will continue be an attractive option for foreign investment. They are still a very big brand. Exemplefied by Sahin picking them over Arsenal (I really rate this player, he was the bollocks at Dortmund). This is something which won't be superceded by a few seasons of decline, unfortunately.
We're in top form right now. Our first XI is very strong. We have managed to hold on to some boss players. But I fear this will be our peak season. Rumors about Fellaini wanting out, etc. We need to qualify for the CL to continue to progress.
Liverpool, meanwhile, are in a transition phase. They have a few very, very, good young players (Sterling, Shelvey, Suso, Allen, Sahin if they can hold on to him). They will be a force again in a few years if they actually stick with one good manager. They are not a force right now because they let Daglish completely screw them over by spending 100m quid on gash players like Carroll, Downing, Adam, and Henderson. If they had actually spent that money well, they'd be competing at the top of the table. Abramovich went and gifted them 50m to spend by buying a player who was clearly on the decline, and they squandered it all. They should be livid with that.
But they're still a far bigger club than us on the global scale. They have a nice stadium. They will continue be an attractive option for foreign investment. They are still a very big brand. Exemplefied by Sahin picking them over Arsenal (I really rate this player, he was the bollocks at Dortmund). This is something which won't be superceded by a few seasons of decline, unfortunately.
I agree, entirely. We're homeless and they're millionaires who have managed to burn down their mansion.
All I'm saying is we should take advantage of the fact that neither of us have a roof because they'll inevitable rebuild in a year or so and we can't. This should be the year where we leave them in our dust, like last year should have been and the year before.
The fact that it wasn't was a massive failure and underachievment on our part, and if we don't do it this year it would be another massive failure. And all this tak about what a big club they are and how much money they spend is just us trying to cover up that failure by pretending that the windmill that beat us up and denied us an fa cup final was actually a giant. It wasn't, it was a team who lost a home game to wigan.
Village Idiot
Player Valuation: £500k
All this global brand stuff ultimately depend on how many seasons of failure they have IMO.
Football fans are fickle especially when they have no connection to the city, in the end they have the same fundamentals as us and can be sure of picking up local fans through thick and thin just like us, but nothing beyond that is automatic.
As an extreme example if they had 15 years of failure I refuse to believe they would still be picking up new fans in any quantity in Surbition or Suriname. The odd Carling Cup win won't cut the mustard either. I see no reason why, by then, fans around the world won't have moved on to City, Chelsea or whoever else has been doing well. Their fans' idea that there is something special about the club is just their silly mythology.
So here's to 15 years of failure for them, with 15 years of continuous improvement for the Blues.
Football fans are fickle especially when they have no connection to the city, in the end they have the same fundamentals as us and can be sure of picking up local fans through thick and thin just like us, but nothing beyond that is automatic.
As an extreme example if they had 15 years of failure I refuse to believe they would still be picking up new fans in any quantity in Surbition or Suriname. The odd Carling Cup win won't cut the mustard either. I see no reason why, by then, fans around the world won't have moved on to City, Chelsea or whoever else has been doing well. Their fans' idea that there is something special about the club is just their silly mythology.
So here's to 15 years of failure for them, with 15 years of continuous improvement for the Blues.
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