peteblue
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Erm, until a couple of days ago, his whole job was to rebuild the economy. If he couldn’t do it as Chancellor what makes him think he’s fit to do it as the PM with a Chancellor who may not agree with him….waste of space….
Current Affairs The next Tory (strong and stable) leader is Boris Johnson
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Erm, until a couple of days ago, his whole job was to rebuild the economy. If he couldn’t do it as Chancellor what makes him think he’s fit to do it as the PM with a Chancellor who may not agree with him….waste of space….
Was a hero to middle England with his furlough scheme, despite the fraud, and all that money on test and trace, What a nice Billionaire throwing someone elses billions around. Bless.
peteblue
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Please don’t remind me about test and trace, the biggest waste of public money ever undertaken…..
Bloody Starmer, egged on by Diane Abbott, what a rum bunch they are, and Scargill, he masterminded the entire plot. Bloody commies....
peteblue
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And Corbyn…..
You mean Stalin...
peteblue
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Him as well….
It was, but Testing and Tracing worked very well in South Korea. It was the government's arrogance in ploughing ahead when they were told repeatedly by experts in the relevant fields that the system and method they wanted to employ here wouldn't work. If it had been done differently it might not have been such a waste, but y'know, politicians gonna politician.
Cant really argue with that, and I suspect he will struggle to as the debate goes on.
He did well with furlough, and I dont mean to underplay it, but he didnt invent the idea did he? Like every country did something similar. Maybe that's me being too critical and he deserves a lot more credit.
He polls well, but I wonder if it's because people think he have them free money, which obviously cant happen forever.
peteblue
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In terms of furlough I believe he was told what to do by Boris. Like him or not, Boris understood what ordinary people and businesses were going through. Rishi would not have had a clue….
I mean we will never know. Sunak was very bright to get his branding all over it.
And it was a good scheme, which objectively very happy to give credit to both Johnson and Sunak for. I'm not sure they had much choice though, to have not done anything would have had disastrous effects on pretty much every layer of society.
We will see with Sunak. I think hes going to try and pitch himself as the fiscally responsible, dare I see it austerity 2.0 figure. I have no idea how that will play out amongst the membership base. I'm not sure how positively they remember the Osborne/Cameron era? That will likely sink or swim his approach.
peteblue
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My view for what it’s worth is that we do not want or need another ‘austerity’ approach, that’s the lazy finance director view of having no vision. We need some bold tax and VAT reductions, to get money in peoples pockets, which will give them confidence to spend and let money circulate throughout the system….
summerisle
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Person in charge of the economy for nearly two and half years promises to rebuild the economy he buggered up - and that's one of his selling points. lol Remember when he lost £11 billion by paying too much interest servicing the country's debt ? Another all mouth and no trousers leader in the waiting.
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The country is broke Pete. Any reduction in PAYE or VAT would be a bribe, that would have to be paid back later.
The Tories’ best bet is to lose the next election badly and leave the incoming government to pick up the pieces.
They have no ideas or initiatives to grow the economy, or improve the lives of ordinary people. Otherwise we wouldn’t be where we are now, after 12 years of stagnation, big brown envelopes and utter shambolic fiscal incompetence. ( oh yeah, and Brexit)
It’s very much like us Evertonians singing that we are the greatest football team, the world has ever seen. We ain’t and haven’t been for a long time.
We are just a consequence of their plans, not the focus, as it should be.
No company should be allowed to undertake business in this country, unless they provide a decent wage, acceptable conditions and pay their taxes on profits made here, in full.
I’ve just spent 10 years working for a company, whereby you couldn't find anyone to sign anything. All documents had to be sent to a PO box in Jersey.
A trustee would sign the documents, on behalf of some other nonentity. Spoke to them many times to hurry them up, they had no idea what they were signing. They were just a drop shop, set up to avoid tax.
The Tory belief is that, if they provide employment, the employees should pay sufficient tax to cover social needs. The organisation shouldn’t have to contribute.
The trust was owned by Saudi and UK interests, all of whom are very well known individuals. Oh yeah and all extremely rich.
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This is key, firmly of the opinion if people felt confident about their own economic circumstances the behaviour of Boris and his government would have been palatable for many of the electorate. Certainly enough not to worry conservative MPs inboxes.
However, most are not confident and factor in creaking infrastructure from failing NHS to creaking transport systems brought about by 10 years of Tory Austerity. The electorate is scared about their finances in particular significant numbers of Tory vote is as well now
So more than ever before over the last 12 years we are now suffering the negatives of Tory ideology, this was perfectly demonstrated as predicted very damaging recent by-elections.
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