peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Bravo......
Current Affairs The next Tory (strong and stable) leader is Boris Johnson
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Bravo......
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I think he’s played it right this time.....he’s the next PM......
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Or as they say in public school - Prick Minor.
It's interesting that the Tories don't seem to learn from history. Labour lurched leftwards with Foot and were out of government for 20 years. The Tories likewise, had a bunch of nasty dimwits in charge after Major that made them unelectable for a very long time. Now it seems, they're responding to the nut-jobbery of Farage by becoming even more nasty, and will hopefully be rewarded for their cowardice by having a similarly long period in the wilderness. When you lose your mantle for competence, and don't have any semblance of normality or values to fall back on, there really is nothing left.
The tory ethos didn't change at all from the likes of ids to cameron and may, the values were totally consistent and just as nasty and in mays case possibly more so as she is an out and out racist. The only difference was hoe they marketed cameron
To an extent, but Cameron was noticeably more liberal than IDS and Howard. He got landed with the biggest recession in 100 years which probably didn't help, but I suspect an IDS led government would have pursued austerity much more aggressively than the coalition did. Either way though, they are making no attempt whatsoever to stake out the central ground at the moment, whether in perception or policy terms, so you would hope they'll have the same outcomes as all other parties that have done that in the past.
Agent Blue
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The Tory leadership merry go round now resembles our search for a credible manager toward the end of the Koeman debacle.
We had Cameron sell the whole country down the river to try and bring harmony to the Conservative Party (Koeman), he bottled it. Then we had the caretaker/ manager take over from him (Rhino) and she was just a balls up from start to finish.
So, if the Conservative Party are truly to reflect the managerial goings on at E.F.C. are we about to witness Sam Allerdyce as P.M.
Judging by the levels of ineptitude/incompetence we have already witnessed, the country could do a lot worse.
We had Cameron sell the whole country down the river to try and bring harmony to the Conservative Party (Koeman), he bottled it. Then we had the caretaker/ manager take over from him (Rhino) and she was just a balls up from start to finish.
So, if the Conservative Party are truly to reflect the managerial goings on at E.F.C. are we about to witness Sam Allerdyce as P.M.
Judging by the levels of ineptitude/incompetence we have already witnessed, the country could do a lot worse.
gonetomorrow
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I can imagine Big Sam at PMQs, his manspread taking up three seats on the green bench, a gravy-based delicacy in his massive paw.
Agent Blue
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And promptly sticks his matchday chewy under said seats.
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Not sure how correct any of that is. Labour 1979-1997 and the Tories 1997-2010 were out of power because they didn't get Murdoch on their side; once that changed they were able to get back in.
After all, the "lurch leftwards" under Foot was over by 1983 (and the Left defeated by 1987) and the Tories never really coalesced around a genuinely unpleasant person until Howard.
You don't regard IDS as unpleasant? Hague I can give you, but after a reasonably centrist person didn't work in winning back power, they lurched to the extremes with Howard and IDS, hence why Cameron needed to detoxify them. With Labour, it was only when Blair came in and accepted the broad economic doctrines of Thatcherism but tried to soften the edges that Labour got back in.
The last few governments have been a case of 'a' party getting a prolonged stint in office, with first Thatcher/Major, then Blair/Brown, now Cameron/May having over a decade in office, before the country got bored of them and voted for a change. It's how the parties react to that change that helped their opponents stay in for a pretty long time. Even May was elected as the more centrist of the candidates in the leadership election (and you could argue the general election too). This was despite being completely and utterly hopeless.
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It should be shown live on Spittiing Image
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
The only league Johnson is in is the Evo-Stik League. He has the charisma of last Friday's kebab hiding at the back of the fridge. To be endorsed by Jacob Rees-Mogg says it all really.
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