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Milo isn't a Nazi, he's just a professional provocateur
I doubt he believes 5% of what he says
He's just someone who discovered that he can make a living saying controversial things into a career
Exactly
Both extreme ends of the left and right spectrum are thoroughly disagreeable and unpleasant IMO
The biggest problem with politics, and indeed society in general, is the steep lack of nuance
Being so entrenched with one ideology over all others can often lead a person to become blinkered
The death of nuance has ruined British politics
tsubaki
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Mikey - Buzzfeed covered what it is he was up to during his time at Breitbart, the people he was hanging around with and what he was discussing privately. He is a deeply unpleasant human being, and it is a bit much to suggest that acting nazi for your own gain is less bad than acting nazi because you believe in it; if anything its far worse given the impact of what he did.
I've been following the Bret Weinstein case pretty closely--Rogan referred to it at the beginning of his podcast. It is utterly bizarre. He is a progressive liberal, pro-Occupy Wall Street, Sanders-supporter, who is now completely demonized by his own.
His wife was booed, from what I hear, for talking about biological sex differences. It is all very strange.
His wife was booed, from what I hear, for talking about biological sex differences. It is all very strange.
I wasn't condoning it, I was just pointing out that it's unlikely he actually is a Nazi
He's gay and has had black boyfriends, not typical Nazi behaviour
tsubaki
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It isn't - though there have been gay Nazis of course, both originally (Roehm and his circle for instance) and in post-war groups. However what he actually believes isn't really the point (indeed it never is with Nazis), its what he says, what he does, what he encourages other people to do and on whose behalf that he does it that matters.
dholliday
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What does he say that makes him a Nazi?
What does he do that makes him a Nazi?
What does he encourages others to do that makes him a Nazi?
Keep in mind what a Nazi is. It's not and should never become a catch-all term to describe someone with opposing views to your own. Nazism (or neo-nazism) is a very specific ideology:
- fascistic/authoritarian - many levels of strict organised governance
- nationalistic to the detriment of outsiders
- 'Master Race' belief / racial hierachy /anti-semitic
- Holocaust denial
- expansionist
- will resort to violence/force to push through policies
- homophobic to the point of criminalising it
- against the common free market
- paganistic/agnostic or at least not aligned with the Christian god
Milo would have to match most of these to make any "he's a Nazi!" shout fair game.
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tsubaki
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Did you even read that Buzzfeed article?
dholliday
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DanEFC92
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I'm not racist, I have black friends.
tsubaki
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I'm asking you, not buzzfeed.
Nazi-worship is a thing, unfortunately.
I know you were asking me, thats why I asked if you had read the article that detailed his links to nazis, white nationalists and whatnot.
Maybe he is a Nazi sympathizer then. May not be an actual Nazis but hanging out with them, speaking at their events and defending them all of the time smacks of someone who is a Nazis or Nazi sympathizer.
But remember this is about the post war Nazis as in the white supremacist types.
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