Trouble is gana kills any attacking momentum when he has the ball and gives it away in dangerous areas a couple of times a game.
I would rather play doucs ahead of him and that’s saying something
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Trouble is gana kills any attacking momentum when he has the ball and gives it away in dangerous areas a couple of times a game.
I would rather play doucs ahead of him and that’s saying something
Against Luton the problem was zonal marking on both goals but that game pointed out another issue - we can’t break down teams who sit back and Gana is not a footballer that helps with passing, creating and certainly not finishing. Putting Garner in for Gana doesn’t lose much defensively and gains loads football-wise… we just have to not play hoofball and actually use the creative players unlike second half against Luton
evertonfandevon
Player Valuation: £500k
Our midfield always do rubbish during Ramadan
Marius57
Player Valuation: £60m
fixed for you
I thought that Luton identified Ashley Young as the weak link and targeted him. Our defending set pieces was poor for such a big team but we were being killed at right full back which led to the set plays.
Streetender1878
Player Valuation: £5m
The midfield has been a mess all season but looked at its best in the last half hour at brentford and that carried on to the villa game. Dyche the reverts back to the midfield thats failed all season. The thing that gets me is the difference in what the midfield does with and without the ball. Again playing luton we create more than enough good chances to win the game and we played some good football as well. Its when we lose the ball or to be even more basic how we set up from an opposition goal kick. We play a very narrow 4-5-1 going forward but its the same without the ball. A 5 man midfield should not leave our fullbacks exposed but it does. The 5 man midfield should go from touchline to touchline the full width of the pitch. Ours doesnt. There also isnt an instruction from the manager to get into a shape as soon as we havent got the ball. I say that coz i am yet to see it. It looks lazy. Mcneil and garner are not in contact with our fullbacks. The players should be sprinting to get back in position to get back behind the ball. I dont think the players are all lazy so either the distances are too big between defence and midfield or players are switching off out of posession. Every team weve played has left a man as wide as they can coz thats where the space is.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
I ranted about this about 2-3 weeks ago also.
If we use Gana as 6 then there is a huge gap between defence/midfield as he has no positional sense and its his nature to go and press. We have to use Onana as a 6.
Then with the full backs as they come inside (almost like extra, wide centre backs) the gap between our wide midfielders and full backs is even more noticable + the distance is far bigger in terms of space behind to get back into as cover/to defend.
Its all a mess and makes no sense to me.
chippy1722
Player Valuation: £35m
Worst midfield I’ve seen in a long time, individually and collectively.
People raving over some of our midfield while battling relegation every year, yet Newcastle have Longstaff playing Champ League against PSG.
It must be nice to have decent coaches who improve players.
People raving over some of our midfield while battling relegation every year, yet Newcastle have Longstaff playing Champ League against PSG.
It must be nice to have decent coaches who improve players.
It's all The Pope's fault then
This. I’ve seen some people say that the Luton game is proof that Garner isn’t the solution to our centre midfield problem. The real issue was that when he was moved into the middle Luton had a lead to hold onto and Dyche’s tactical genius resorted to telling defenders and Pickford just to lump the ball forward so just cut midfield out of the game.
It was probably the easiest 45 minutes of defending Luton will have all season. They probably had a harder time against some teams when they were in league 2 or even the National league. Maybe that’s what Dyche means when he keeps talking about ‘changing our story.’
gonetomorrow
Player Valuation: £70m
You'd have to refamiliarise him with the shape of the ball in that case.
Marius57
Player Valuation: £60m
By the sounds of it, he will be back in time for the derby. Our saviour. Andre Gomes
OneTrueLegend
Player Valuation: £35m
The only thing Gomes can do now is pass, he cant tackle and he cant run, he has never been prolific in terms of goals.
I would be surprised if Gomes plays because Dyche is not going to play that way. He plays with 2 defensive players in the middle and one that gets in the box
Blue Roo
Player Valuation: £20m
Onana has to play 6. There are times when you could see Garner drop back with Onana a 10 to get more height in the box, but really that'd be like at 10min period, just to shift dynamics or throw the kitchen sink at it.
The best thing for the defence and start of attacks is the partnership of Braithwaite, Tarks and Onana to develop. It would also be the best path to Onana's development.
That's the obvious bit out of the way.
Garner ideally would play 8 but when you look at the options he's the best 10 we got atm. And the best 10 needs to play that role if this side is going to go about scoring goals.
He can play in tight spaces around the box, keep hold of the ball, continue possession and often is making the right creative decisions and goal chances.
The alternative is anxiety football from Gana and Doucoure chasing their touches around the attacking areas invaribaly losing the ball more often than not, having little vision of what's around them, making poor designs and basically creating a vortex of anxiety and lack of confidence and creativity for other players to get drawn in by.
Doucoure is an opportunistic goalscorer who has enough skill to deliver every so often (thank god he has).
But he is no playmaker let along an attacking option... so desperately needed for far to long.
Gana should not be anywhere near the attacking plamaking or chances created.
McNeil is not a serious option at 8 or 10, never will be and so never should be played there, these types of selections just hold back the badly needed development of the team.Theres obv a big diff defending the line and box to box centrally. The same would go for Harrison.
Gomes defence and endurance makes him not an option before even getting to what he can't do in attack.
So its either Doucs or Gana at 8? (until a 10 is found and Garner drops to 8).
Doucs will run all day and is a bit of an enigma for me in how he can still influence games positively without managing to bring the bread and butter quality in possession the team needs from that position. I'd start him over Gana.
Gana still offers a lot in the later stages of a game, there's a big if to this, the rest of the team needs to be able to play to the shift he would bring.
Dyche doesn't seem to have a clue about the effect his subs make on the midfield play, he doesn't seem to grasp how underdeveloped the sense of play is in the midfield, and as such, the whole team's sense of play. Make changes mid game and that compounds the problem more often than not.
Dyche has to stop effing around.
The best thing for the defence and start of attacks is the partnership of Braithwaite, Tarks and Onana to develop. It would also be the best path to Onana's development.
That's the obvious bit out of the way.
Garner ideally would play 8 but when you look at the options he's the best 10 we got atm. And the best 10 needs to play that role if this side is going to go about scoring goals.
He can play in tight spaces around the box, keep hold of the ball, continue possession and often is making the right creative decisions and goal chances.
The alternative is anxiety football from Gana and Doucoure chasing their touches around the attacking areas invaribaly losing the ball more often than not, having little vision of what's around them, making poor designs and basically creating a vortex of anxiety and lack of confidence and creativity for other players to get drawn in by.
Doucoure is an opportunistic goalscorer who has enough skill to deliver every so often (thank god he has).
But he is no playmaker let along an attacking option... so desperately needed for far to long.
Gana should not be anywhere near the attacking plamaking or chances created.
McNeil is not a serious option at 8 or 10, never will be and so never should be played there, these types of selections just hold back the badly needed development of the team.Theres obv a big diff defending the line and box to box centrally. The same would go for Harrison.
Gomes defence and endurance makes him not an option before even getting to what he can't do in attack.
So its either Doucs or Gana at 8? (until a 10 is found and Garner drops to 8).
Doucs will run all day and is a bit of an enigma for me in how he can still influence games positively without managing to bring the bread and butter quality in possession the team needs from that position. I'd start him over Gana.
Gana still offers a lot in the later stages of a game, there's a big if to this, the rest of the team needs to be able to play to the shift he would bring.
Dyche doesn't seem to have a clue about the effect his subs make on the midfield play, he doesn't seem to grasp how underdeveloped the sense of play is in the midfield, and as such, the whole team's sense of play. Make changes mid game and that compounds the problem more often than not.
Dyche has to stop effing around.
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