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I have not seen any right wing thugs attacking police or toppling statues, attacking war memorials / desecration of signs/streets.

If thats happening then they are just as much scum that need stopping.

Yes, because the far right are usually extremely well behaved and promote nothing but peace, love and tolerance for every man, women and child.
 
Yes, because the far right are usually extremely well behaved and promote nothing but peace, love and tolerance for every man, women and child.

But we are talking about these protests - so I dont get your point mate?

You're just in a huff that im pointing out the Left haven't painted themselves in glory.

Its why centrism is for me the only way - the left/right often can not behave themselves.
 
But we are talking about these protests - so I dont get your point mate?

You're just in a huff that im pointing out the Left haven't painted themselves in glory.

Its why centrism is for me the only way - the left/right often can not behave themselves.

I’m not in a huff, just making sure we aren’t thinking the far right are some how taking the moral high ground.
 
Just watched Ricky Gervais’ latest Live Twitter video. 2 minutes in he goes off on one, making some really good points on what’s happening In the world right now. Sat there agreeing with everything he said, and if this thread is anything to go by, thought to myself that it could have been @Tubey sat there speaking lol(Apologies if you’re not a fan of his Tubes, and don’t actuallly agree with him... :oops:)

 
Just watched Ricky Gervais’ latest Live Twitter video. 2 minutes in he goes off on one, making some really good points on what’s happening In the world right now. Sat there agreeing with everything he said, and if this thread is anything to go by, thought to myself that it could have been @Tubey sat there speaking lol(Apologies if you’re not a fan of his Tubes, and don’t actuallly agree with him... :oops:)



I think he's OK - bit middle of the road, but not bad as such.

As for what he says, nails it. Completely nails it. I wish people on here would listen to that with an objective mind and take what he says on board.

People will call this condescending, but still going to say it - for a lot of what goes on now, I see it as a hive mind lack of intelligence; a complete inability to see subtlety and rationale. I think society has got dumber over the last 20 years - the reality TV generation.

There are people who are well read on their own "side" on here, could tell you the ins and outs of Corbynism and the PLP and whatnot for example; be able to really intelligently express that political ideology when prompted... and yet have formed their views solely from sources they already agreed with, meaning they have not once challenged their belief system. They cannot identify value in an opposing view, be able to extract and modify their thought process, be able to reason out sound logic. No, they've boiled it down to two camps - left vs. right, Labour vs. Tory, right vs. wrong - what Labour or the left say is right, what the Tories say is wrong. No ifs, no buts. They've been trained to think that way and it's because, in my view, the art of debate has been lost in schools and universities and people no longer have the skill to do it.

This whole thing proves it. If you challenge anything the BLM movement do, you're a racist. You're the enemy. They don't want to hear any counter-discussion; they've decided what's "right" and that's it, end of discussion.

Or another example - the label "boomer". Any contribution or thought on a subject from someone of a certain age is disregarded, don't want to hear it, "OK boomer". Or "gammon" - because rather than deal with and address and debate and reason with an entire demographic of people, it's easier to just laugh at the stereotype of middle aged white men with skin discolouration and disregard anything and everything about them.

And I'm not ancient old man saying "my day was better"; I'm 35!

Society is broken, and it's a generational thing and a class thing and - yes - a racial thing. But the way people are trying to bridge these gaps is horrendous and leaves me shaking my head.
 
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I think he's OK - bit middle of the road, but not bad as such.

As for what he says, nails it. Completely nails it. I wish people on here would listen to that with an objective mind and take what he says on board.

People will call this condescending, but still going to say it - for a lot of what goes on now, I see it as a hive mind lack of intelligence; a complete inability to see subtlety and rationale. I think society has got dumber over the last 20 years - the reality TV generation.

There are people who are well read on their own "side" on here, could tell you the ins and outs of Corbynism and the PLP and whatnot for example; be able to really intelligently express that political ideology when prompted... and yet have formed their views solely from sources they already agreed with, meaning they have not once challenged their belief system. They cannot identify value in an opposing view, be able to extract and modify their thought process, be able to reason out sound logic. No, they've boiled it down to two camps - left vs. right, Labour vs. Tory, right vs. wrong - what Labour or the left say is right, what the Tories say is wrong. No ifs, no buts. They've been trained to think that way and it's because, in my view, the art of debate has been lost in schools and universities and people no longer have the skill to do it.

This whole thing proves it. If you challenge anything the BLM movement do, you're a racist. You're the enemy. They don't want to hear any counter-discussion; they've decided what's "right" and that's it, end of discussion.

Or another example - the label "boomer". Any contribution or thought on a subject from someone of a certain age is disregarded, don't want to hear it, "OK boomer". Or "gammon" - because rather than deal with and address and debate and reason with an entire demographic of people, it's easier to just laugh at the stereotype of middle aged white men with skin discolouration and disregard anything and everything about them.

And I'm not ancient old man saying "my day was better"; I'm 35!

Society is broken, and it's a generational thing and a class thing and - yes - a racial thing. But the way people are trying to bridge these gaps is horrendous and leaves me shaking my head.

Spot on.
 
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