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[Jebus_lives]

Was exactly the point I was making. A dull statue getting dumped in a river has given Edward Colston more notoriety than 200 years of his likeness sitting in place.

I'll have you know that Heritage England describe the statute as 'A handsome statue, erected in the late C19 to commemorate a late C17 figure; the resulting contrast of styles is handled with confidence'.

 

[Moomin]

the ultimate goal surely must be the churchill statue my friends. let us see if they pursue this and if the authorities let them take it so easy.

He is rotting in hell with Jimmy Savile.

 

[daza_1973]

Where do you draw the line though?..

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

I'll have you know that Heritage England describe the statute as 'A handsome statue, erected in the late C19 to commemorate a late C17 figure; the resulting contrast of styles is handled with confidence'.

I admit a sneaking admiration for his raffish way with a cane.

 

[Debunkology]

You'd never heard of Edward Colston until Sunday, I hadn't either. Now we all know about his activities in the slave trade and some of the brutality his employees went about. The statue has served it's purpose.

I heard of Edward Colston two years ago:

100 human figures placed in front of Colston statue in city centre

It's happening 'here and now'

www.bristolpost.co.uk

Looks like this won't happen again.

 

[the sniderman]

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if they go after the pyramids then report then to their mummy. and as we know the fallen of rome can be honored with a small plaque that no one can see.

 

[the sniderman]

I heard of Edward Colston two years ago:

100 human figures placed in front of Colston statue in city centre

It's happening 'here and now'

www.bristolpost.co.uk

Looks like this won't happen again.

sure he did. sure he did buddies.

 

[Tea_drinker]

From what I've read slavery was present in Africa before Europeans arrived there. I believe the Portuguese were the first to organise trans Atlantic slavery.

In fact from deeper reading on the subject I've learned that Angkor was built by slaves but these were people who referred to themselves as slaves and apparently the Khmer for 'I' translates into English as 'slave'.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

I heard of Edward Colston two years ago:

100 human figures placed in front of Colston statue in city centre

It's happening 'here and now'

www.bristolpost.co.uk

Looks like this won't happen again.

Even if you did hear of him two years ago, the point still stands.

You ONLY heard of this man when other people protested about it. For the other 200 years the statue stood there you/we had absolutely no clue who he was.

So tearing the thing down/protesting its existence was the catalyst for educating people, not its existence.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

From what I've read slavery was present in Africa before Europeans arrived there. I believe the Portuguese were the first to organise trans Atlantic slavery.

In fact from deeper reading on the subject I've learned that Angkor was built by slaves but these were people who referred to themselves as slaves and apparently the Khmer for 'I' translates into English as 'slave'.

Slavery was present in almost every society across history. But the residents of Bristol can't do much about its historical legacy in Mesopotamia or Egypt.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Slavery was present in almost every society across history. But the residents of Bristol can't do much about its historical legacy in Mesopotamia or Egypt.

Bristol BLM goes Global: Part 2 - spanking the Sphinx

 

[daza_1973]

Slavery was present in almost every society across history. But the residents of Bristol can't do much about its historical legacy in Mesopotamia or Egypt.

I think there's a statue of Lugalzagesi of Uruk in Bristol museum - get it in the Bristol channel now....

 

[PSB1]

Interestingly (well, to me at least), the Book of Leviticus promotes slavery - as long as it's enslavement of other peoples than your own. It comes a bit after where it tells us to kill people who eat prawns or have a hair cut. Ah, those merry, carefree days.

On another note, why not have a statue park in the midlands or where ever, with all the contentious statues put on display and notes about their 'crimes'* and the rest of their record? Largely, I suspect, because that would open up some terribly difficult questions about national 'heroes' which the population really wouldn't want to address.

I'm using ' ... ' as, of course, their crimes weren't crimes at the time.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Interestingly (well, to me at least), the Book of Leviticus promotes slavery - as long as it's enslavement of other peoples than your own. It comes a bit after where it tells us to kill people who eat prawns or have a hair cut. Ah, those merry, carefree days.

On another note, why not have a statue park in the midlands or where ever, with all the contentious statues put on display and notes about their 'crimes'* and the rest of their record? Largely, I suspect, because that would open up some terribly difficult questions about national 'heroes' which the population really wouldn't want to address.

I'm using ' ... ' as, of course, their crimes weren't crimes at the time.

And would be an incredibly boring day out.

 

[Debunkology]

Even if you did hear of him two years ago, the point still stands.

You ONLY heard of this man when other people protested about it. For the other 200 years the statue stood there you/we had absolutely no clue who he was.

So tearing the thing down/protesting its existence was the catalyst for educating people, not its existence.

I think his statue was erected closer to a 100 years ago, than 200.

Surely me learning about him 2 years ago because of 100 human figures was placed in front of his statue to mark anti-slavery day. Is better than me learning about him recentlty through vandalism?

Tearing down his statue creates a narrative that is surely unwelcome: Vandalism. Hooliganism.


Just like the Riots in the United States diverted attention away from police reform to people looting to get some TVs.

Fair enough. A lot of people will have learned about him recently. But this has created a 15 minutes of fame. 2 million tourists visit Bristol each year. Whereas no one will care in 2 weeks.