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I feel sorry for the players tbh. Some will fully support whatever they believe the message of ‘taking a knee’ means, others will do it because it’s not worth the aggravation of not doing it.....
 
I feel sorry for the players tbh. Some will fully support whatever they believe the message of ‘taking a knee’ means, others will do it because it’s not worth the aggravation of not doing it.....

The Colchester United owner explained it well.

Callum Harriot described the purpose of the gesture perfectly to me explaining that taking the knee dates back to early civil rights movements as a way of silently showing solidarity in support of political inequalities suffered by oppressed communities.

Those that take the knee want to highlight that all lives should be valued and should not be treated inhumanely or inferior to others just because of their race.

It is undeniable that black and other ethnic minority people are still the victims of racism, and the black footballers and staff at Colchester United feel that they are in a position of privilege that has been fought for through the blood and sweat of their ancestors.

A position that in 2020 the average black person is still not afforded.

Those taking the knee, and supporting the taking of the knee, not only shows their willingness to support the drive to eradicate racial oppression but force it to be a talking point even when it’s uncomfortable.

Undeniably, taking the knee is a fundamental catalyst in pushing the conversation and thus the necessary changes forward.


He also offered to refund anyone's season ticket if they weren't happy with this.
 
The Colchester United owner explained it well.

Callum Harriot described the purpose of the gesture perfectly to me explaining that taking the knee dates back to early civil rights movements as a way of silently showing solidarity in support of political inequalities suffered by oppressed communities.

Those that take the knee want to highlight that all lives should be valued and should not be treated inhumanely or inferior to others just because of their race.

It is undeniable that black and other ethnic minority people are still the victims of racism, and the black footballers and staff at Colchester United feel that they are in a position of privilege that has been fought for through the blood and sweat of their ancestors.

A position that in 2020 the average black person is still not afforded.

Those taking the knee, and supporting the taking of the knee, not only shows their willingness to support the drive to eradicate racial oppression but force it to be a talking point even when it’s uncomfortable.

Undeniably, taking the knee is a fundamental catalyst in pushing the conversation and thus the necessary changes forward.


He also offered to refund anyone's season ticket if they weren't happy with this.

I think that’s the issue here though. Your quote is really good and explains the action. But unfortunately to then insinuate that any who are not really bothered should get a refund on their ST is what puzzles many. It’s a form of threat, conform or go away, so they will probably just say nothing and conform, no doubt like a number of players will. Kick racism out of football is a genuine attempt at changing perspectives and indeed behaviour at matches towards the players because it is a simple message and non political. I’m not so sure that the BLM message is quite so simple or apolitical......
 
The Colchester United owner explained it well.

Callum Harriot described the purpose of the gesture perfectly to me explaining that taking the knee dates back to early civil rights movements as a way of silently showing solidarity in support of political inequalities suffered by oppressed communities.

Those that take the knee want to highlight that all lives should be valued and should not be treated inhumanely or inferior to others just because of their race.

It is undeniable that black and other ethnic minority people are still the victims of racism, and the black footballers and staff at Colchester United feel that they are in a position of privilege that has been fought for through the blood and sweat of their ancestors.

A position that in 2020 the average black person is still not afforded.

Those taking the knee, and supporting the taking of the knee, not only shows their willingness to support the drive to eradicate racial oppression but force it to be a talking point even when it’s uncomfortable.

Undeniably, taking the knee is a fundamental catalyst in pushing the conversation and thus the necessary changes forward.


He also offered to refund anyone's season ticket if they weren't happy with this.

Yeah this isn't surprising info.

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We all know this. It's why I supported Kaepernick - what he was doing and the gesture itself was right.

The problem is the corruption of it. It doesn't just represent that now in 2020.

I'll be accused of Godwin's Law again, but it's the perfect example - a Swastika now doesn't mean what it meant pre-1930s. It doesn't matter what it was if it's been corrupted to such a degree that it means something different now.
 
No, they corrupted it. Football chose to have the gesture specifically in support of Black Lives Matter - they emblazoned it on the shirts.

The gesture is now irrevocably tied in to support for BLM.

It's a delusion to suggest anything other than that. Just because you want to be able to separate the gesture from the context, it doesn't matter, because it's literally impossible.

Churchill wanted this to be V for Victory.

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He quickly learned what it meant, and it changed, because obviously he bloody did.

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This isn't some mad opinion of mine; it's fact. Symbolism is real, it exists.
Actually, it was popularised first by a Belgian politician who wanted it (by Morse code) beamed to Belgium via the BBC to rouse the populace into resistance. Churchill agreed on the broadcast, and subsequently used the V for Victory sign.
 
Actually, it was popularised first by a Belgian politician who wanted it (by Morse code) beamed to Belgium via the BBC to rouse the populace into resistance. Churchill agreed on the broadcast, and subsequently used the V for Victory sign.

Indeed... after making an arse of himself getting it wrong haha

It does make me laugh this whole "man of the people" view of Churchill like. Career politician, upper class, literally born in a palace to aristocracy - would be surprised if he ever had a conversation with anyone from the working class, but his eccentricity carried him through.

Basically Boris Johnson but marginally better.

Anyway, clearly off topic!
 
Lolling at that pathetic display from the Millwall. Successfully bullying their own players into doing what they want and making sure that anti-racism messages shouldn't forget that ignorant Millwall fans are the real victims. Grim

That’s pretty disingenuous, Prev, it was also poor old free market capitalism that was so horrifically treated by Scott Malone and his disrespectful pals

Which ones
 
Lolling at that pathetic display from the Millwall. Successfully bullying their own players into doing what they want and making sure that anti-racism messages shouldn't forget that ignorant Millwall fans are the real victims. Grim
A bunch of savages, for sure, but ones who have been indulged and given the (backhanded) status of 'authentic' fans by the nobheads who write about football for 'quality' papers.
 
Just a quick look into any Millwall fan forum, and you will see how unrepentant they are.

A vile group of neo Mosleyite rats.
 
The letter to the Millwall fans from the club was interesting, to say the least. View attachment 110613
The second to last line is absurd. Nobody was watching, wanting them to fail. They were just watching, hoping they wouldn’t be racist. Also, it was a mid season match between two mid-table Championship sides, being played concurrently with the final round of the Champions League group stage. To claim that the “eyes of the world” were in them feels very self-important.
 
The second to last line is absurd. Nobody was watching, wanting them to fail. They were just watching, hoping they wouldn’t be racist. Also, it was a mid season match between two mid-table Championship sides, being played concurrently with the final round of the Champions League group stage. To claim that the “eyes of the world” were in them feels very self-important.
Should have just put #all lives matter on the bottom.
Some organisations just don’t help themselves
 
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