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Maybe if the party united behind Sir Keir that Labour % would change. Amount of animosity and in fighting towards the leadership no wonder many people are still not convinced to jump back on board.
what are his policies mate? Don't trundle out the "10 pledges" mantra, as most of that has and will be ditched.
No chance of unity as long as the centre right backstabbers are in charge.
 
Black Labour MPs are not happy with the delay of the findings of the Floode Inquiry - an inquiry concerning LP internal handling of so called "anti-semitism" cases, but which also is tasked with looking into LP right wingers' racial attacks on black LP MPs and black members. The LP leadership look like they're kicking any anti-racism case into the long grass.


Starmer has chosen to go down the UJ - little Englander - patriotic route and doesn't want to antagonise the anti-immigrant voters he believes he needs to win in 2024.
 
Black Labour MPs are not happy with the delay of the findings of the Floode Inquiry - an inquiry concerning LP internal handling of so called "anti-semitism" cases, but which also is tasked with looking into LP right wingers' racial attacks on black LP MPs and black members. The LP leadership look like they're kicking any anti-racism case into the long grass.


Starmer has chosen to go down the UJ - little Englander - patriotic route and doesn't want to antagonise the anti-immigrant voters he believes he needs to win in 2024.

There has never been a day since that I've regretted voting for Florence Eshalomi to be the PPC for Vauxhall, after Hoey flounced off.
 
Maybe if the party united behind Sir Keir that Labour % would change. Amount of animosity and in fighting towards the leadership no wonder many people are still not convinced to jump back on board.

Yet, bizarrely, you were completely supportive of those on the right of the party showing absolutely no united front when it came to Corbyn.
 
Will come down to policy...

Lots can be said about critique of government and pandemic, best left while it's still live for the professional opposition politicians, grieving and scared people should not be pawned for opportunism. The unnecessary dead are not bouncing back like jobs or economy and that grief will turn to anger at this unnecessary high death toll.

Put manifesto together that delivers simple message which resonates with the wider electorate... The rest will follow.

The rights and wrongs of suspensions are neither here or there for most, discipline matters, box ticked.
 
Yet, bizarrely, you were completely supportive of those on the right of the party showing absolutely no united front when it came to Corbyn.

#fakenews that mate - I never liked Corbyn but I didnt contribute in any online / social media campaign to whip up flames against him/the party.

What I've seen in recent months is scandalous - people simply can not moan if we get another term of the Tories and austerity cuts as they are damaging the only credible opposition against them its that simple.
 
Will come down to policy...

Lots can be said about critique of government and pandemic, best left while it's still live for the professional opposition politicians, grieving and scared people should not be pawned for opportunism. The unnecessary dead are not bouncing back like jobs or economy and that grief will turn to anger at this unnecessary high death toll.

Put manifesto together that delivers simple message which resonates with the wider electorate... The rest will follow.

The rights and wrongs of suspensions are neither here or there for most, discipline matters, box ticked.

I’d love to agree with this, but the problem Labour have with that (even if they sort themselves out) is the Tory domination of the media.

No combination of great policy, messaging, star candidates or malfeasance by the Government is ever going to get a fair hearing come election time - the media won’t do it.

Just look at all the culture war sh*te filling the usual papers this last week, day after day of BLM talk when there hasn’t been a BLM protest in months, when the worst attack on a memorial was carried out by the right wing anyway and all solely because Sadiq Khan announced who would be looking at London’s monuments.
 
#fakenews that mate - I never liked Corbyn but I didnt contribute in any online / social media campaign to whip up flames against him/the party.

What I've seen in recent months is scandalous - people simply can not moan if we get another term of the Tories and austerity cuts as they are damaging the only credible opposition against them its that simple.

lol
 
I’d love to agree with this, but the problem Labour have with that (even if they sort themselves out) is the Tory domination of the media.

No combination of great policy, messaging, star candidates or malfeasance by the Government is ever going to get a fair hearing come election time - the media won’t do it.

Just look at all the culture war sh*te filling the usual papers this last week, day after day of BLM talk when there hasn’t been a BLM protest in months, when the worst attack on a memorial was carried out by the right wing anyway and all solely because Sadiq Khan announced who would be looking at London’s monuments.

If a party is sensible with how it puts it's policies across, people will listen.

Labour did brilliantly in 2017. They cocked up on Brexit, that's all, in the intervening years. MPs going against what a fair chunk of labour voters voted for. That was the issue - it's what got this current shambles in power.

I'll never forgive the state of that last Labour leadership. The political equivalent of Roberto Martinez.

I don't know if Starmer will do well. But the next election isn't for another 3 years.
 
If a party is sensible with how it puts it's policies across, people will listen.

Labour did brilliantly in 2017. They cocked up on Brexit, that's all, in the intervening years. MPs going against what a fair chunk of labour voters voted for. That was the issue - it's what got this current shambles in power.

I'll never forgive the state of that last Labour leadership. The political equivalent of Roberto Martinez.

I don't know if Starmer will do well. But the next election isn't for another 3 years.

Not sure that the past century of British politics supports any of that analysis, tbh. The papers have been the key power in determining who runs the country, hence them being stuffed with Tories and the absolute panic that was caused when XR stopped the Murdoch rags going out for just a day.

Labour did far better than expected in 2017, but the past year has made the much-derided 2019 manifesto look far more accurate a description of what would be required to fix this country. Yes, Brexit was not dealt with properly in either 2017 or 2019 - every single one of the delays was down to Tory intransigence after all - and yes, they basically ignored national security (even though the government record there was and us shameful), but they were on a better trajectory than anything seen from Labour from 2001 onwards.

Corbyn’s time as leader wasn’t perfect by any means, but I think history will be a lot kinder to him than any of his contemporaries (especially in terms of Labour senior politicians).
 
I liked her for years, as she was a decent constituency MP (and because of her rows with Lambeth Labour) but yes, since she cosied up to Farage she has disgraced herself.
In the pockets of the stoneage Unionists of NI...much more one of them than she was a Labour MP. I'm not entirely sure how someone with her horrendous worldview found a home in Labour.
 
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