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The torturer's friend Starmer just delivered a speech to the CBI promising Labour will be the party of business and promises them a break with the past.

In other words: back to the future of a Blairite Party where "we're very relaxed about people getting filthy rich".
 
davek said:
The torturer's friend Starmer just delivered a speech to the CBI promising Labour will be the party of business and promises them a break with the past.

In other words: back to the future of a Blairite Party where "we're very relaxed about people getting filthy rich".
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It would be rather counter productive for Starmer to come out and say Labour aren't a party of business, considering that our entire society is underpinned by being a place businesses can be successful.

Being a party of business and a party of workers isn't a mutually exclusive position.
 
Hickson9 said:
It would be rather counter productive for Starmer to come out and say Labour aren't a party of business, considering that our entire society is underpinned by being a place businesses can be successful.

Being a party of business and a party of workers isn't a mutually exclusive position.
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It depends what proportion you give your attention to.

The Blairites were the creatures of corporate Britain and their media moguls.

Is that the place you want the LP of 2020 to be in?
 
davek said:
Improvement in quality of life is relative. Else how would we measure it?
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Remember when Tax credit landed, it paid £300 per month with ten months back pay, certainly helped our £900ish per month child care bill at the time, price of living, "darn sarf landan way innit."
 
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Cant dismiss devolution, which has allowed Wales to protect its people from the indifference of Westminster, and also allowed a political stable mate of Corbyn to be our First Minister.
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They even set that up to nobble it. In Scotland they thought they'd established an electoral system (a form of Proportional Representation) that would never lead to a majority rule for the Nationalists.
 
NilSatisOptimum said:
Remember when Tax credit landed, it paid £300 per month with ten months back pay, certainly helped our £900ish per month child care bill at the time, price of living, "darn sarf landan way innit."
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By not curbing the growth of inequality, as all previous Labour administrations had done after 1945, 1964, 1966 and 1974, New Labour left office with a majority of the British people, some 90%, having to get by on around 60% of the national income. Contrast that with the rise to 67.7% when the 1945 government left office or, the 71.1% and then 71.2% that Wilson’s governments had left the 90% with, or the 71.6% that the ‘bottom 90%’ received when Labour had last left office in 1979. Without exception, all previous Labour administrations had left Britain a more equal place than when they had taken power. New Labour left it more divided.

progressiveeconomyforum.com

New Labour, Inequality and the 1% • The Progressive Economy Forum

In the runup to the publication of the new, third edition of his book 'Inequality and the 1%', Danny Dorling writes for the PEF blog on New Labour and the recent history of inequality in the UK.
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davek said:
Improvement in quality of life is relative. Else how would we measure it?
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I dont measure my life against anyone. I get why stat freaks and lobby groups will lump all sorts into one mass or another to make their point, but after 7 months of covid, 7 months of not being able to work, and being in the welfare system, I have never been more financially stable.

If my neighbour over the road has more money, (he probably has) I couldnt care less. His wife is still orange and looks silly.
 
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