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roydo said:
That he appealed to this Red Wall thing. By offering hope. Not saying I agree with it, just making the point that he was positive and upbeat, and enough folk bought it.
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Sorry but until friday morning I'd never heard of the red wall thing, what is it? And again just because you've used it twice, what is this 'hope' that de Pfeffel has offered?
 
Rob17896 said:
Much of the manifesto was good. However they failed to sell it and were too weak to deal firmly with anti-semitism and god help us if McLuskey got close to a government, bullying ratbag.

I want a Labour Government and despite my reservations it was a better option than anything else. But they failed and we all new he would fail, he could not even beat May. He was too stubborn to realise that, now god knows...
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Genuinely not being intentionally patronising but I don't believe you actually want a 'labour' government, that would be elected on its policies not on personalities, and the threat of a grid lid collector with an offensive beard.
By 'knowing' he would 'fail', and he could not 'beat May', displays either disdain or naive disinterest because 'he' is not the labour party, but some on the right of the party acquiesced to that scenario, and 'he' did not take on May, he took on Murdoch, the Barclays, Branson and all the faceless, chinless wondless who 'whisper in dark corridors and determine your future for you'.
Milliband got it. But the labour right couldn't throw anti semitism at him now could they? But they threw 'Marxist' at him, and his dad.
The only one who got an easy ride, and guess what? He's the godfather to one of Murdoch's kids.
There is more responsibility on the labour quisling right than thete is on the 'radical far left' of housewives, people who work but still get benefits, the sick not allowed PIP, the disabled forced to 'work', and everybody else that doesn't get a mention by Tom Watson or Luciana Berger et al.
Conscience eh? Mine's crystal.
 
neil999 said:
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That's not what I mean at all... That's how many working people viewed it 'what are labour doing for me' and decided it was nothing so voted tory
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Hope the 'working people" change their minds after voting for the most right wing Tory government I have seen in my lifetime (and that includes thatcher's crew)...We will see wont we ?
 
magicjuan said:
Genuinely not being intentionally patronising but I don't believe you actually want a 'labour' government, that would be elected on its policies not on personalities, and the threat of a grid lid collector with an offensive beard.
By 'knowing' he would 'fail', and he could not 'beat May', displays either disdain or naive disinterest because 'he' is not the labour party, but some on the right of the party acquiesced to that scenario, and 'he' did not take on May, he took on Murdoch, the Barclays, Branson and all the faceless, chinless wondless who 'whisper in dark corridors and determine your future for you'.
Milliband got it. But the labour right couldn't throw anti semitism at him now could they? But they threw 'Marxist' at him, and his dad.
The only one who got an easy ride, and guess what? He's the godfather to one of Murdoch's kids.
There is more responsibility on the labour quisling right than thete is on the 'radical far left' of housewives, people who work but still get benefits, the sick not allowed PIP, the disabled forced to 'work', and everybody else that doesn't get a mention by Tom Watson or Luciana Berger et al.
Conscience eh? Mine's crystal.
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Nail..on head ;)
 
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