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[Bruce Wayne]

....so after Corbyn, there are suggestions the Labour Party will appoint Angela Raynor as the new leader. An ex-Unison official. Seems like being a shop-steward is a requirement to be a Labour MP.

To be fair, 10% of the population is in a trade union so surely they're ideally placed to lead the government? I'd need to know whether she uses Linux or not before committing my support however.

 

[zzr45]

....so after Corbyn, there are suggestions the Labour Party will appoint Angela Raynor as the new leader. An ex-Unison official. Seems like being a shop-steward is a requirement to be a Labour MP.

The equivalent of using petrol to put out a fire, then deciding to cut off a leg as well.

 

[peteblue]

....so after Corbyn, there are suggestions the Labour Party will appoint Angela Raynor as the new leader. An ex-Unison official. Seems like being a shop-steward is a requirement to be a Labour MP.

not being funny but I thought it always was.....

 

[Pudsey]

Raynor comes across terribly on TV, but I suppose Momentum will get what Momentum wants.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

....so after Corbyn, there are suggestions the Labour Party will appoint Angela Raynor as the new leader. An ex-Unison official. Seems like being a shop-steward is a requirement to be a Labour MP.

God I hope not, she's just another one of those who rants and raves.

 

[Charro]

As long as Jess Phillips is nowhere near it.

 

[abelard]

Yes I believe you have misunderstood again by being way too focused on one part of my post and applying it to the rest. At no stage did I say use my personal situation as a blueprint to scale up and use as how we deal with the countries finances which is what you are kind of implying above(?)

I used that car finance example to basically agree with what you (and the expert Mr Koo that you sent a podcast link), that if you are suddenly totally fixed on the balance sheet and borrowing stops then the economy will retract quicker and deeper. Which again you have put above in relation to the 2008 crash. In my scenario it meant my spending power that would have helped other retailers was down by around £300 a month. Not everyone would have found themselves in that rubbish position but you can probably times that by thousands and then millions more that will tighten their belts to be able to weather any storm. So it's not hard to see why an economy tanks in those situations.

I don't disagree with you that by the government spending more and running a deficit in times of crisis will help the economy recover faster. I totally get that. Where my viewpoint differs is that this should not be an open chequebook with scant regard to the national debt. The risks are too great if it goes wrong, although that in itself is quite small, as it's unlikely that a country with the output of the UK will go bust if managed correctly.

Ah, so you think the right amount of public debt is the right amount, and too much debt would be too much. Bril.

And I am explaining that what Labour proposes is the right amount of public debt, and also likely necessary to save the financial system, not to mention your pension.

So, let's all spare each other another chorus of 'but we can't afford it'.

 

[Pudsey]

Jess Phillips everyday before Angela Raynor.

 

[tsubaki]

....so after Corbyn, there are suggestions the Labour Party will appoint Angela Raynor as the new leader. An ex-Unison official. Seems like being a shop-steward is a requirement to be a Labour MP.

Eggs, please stop reading or listening to whoever said that.

For a start, Labour doesn’t appoint its leader. Secondly, the person who most regularly gets touted as a potential leader is Rebecca Long-Bailey.

Also (and this wasn’t you) Rayner is not that left wing.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Eggs, please stop reading or listening to whoever said that.

For a start, Labour doesn’t appoint its leader. Secondly, the person who most regularly gets touted as a potential leader is Rebecca Long-Bailey.

Also (and this wasn’t you) Rayner is not that left wing.

Long-Bailey is also bloody awful

 

[Eggs]

God I hope not, she's just another one of those who rants and raves.

....Momentum run the show, it simply means we’ll have at least 10 more years of Conservatism.

 

[tsubaki]

Long-Bailey is also bloody awful

Not compared to the Government front bench she isn’t.

 

[tsubaki]

....Momentum run the show, it simply means we’ll have at least 10 more years of Conservatism.

they really don’t, and you should take whoever’s advice it was to pop along to your local CLP to find that our for yourself

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Not compared to the Government front bench she isn’t.

Let me rephrase

Rebecca Long-Bailey is a different flavor of awful to the current government front bench.

There is an absolute dearth of talent in British politics.

 

[tsubaki]

Let me rephrase

Rebecca Long-Bailey is a different flavor of awful to the current government front bench.

There is an absolute dearth of talent in British politics.

No, she is someone who doesn’t sound or look like what we think a politician should sound like. As an MP, she has been fantastic.

She emphatically isn’t a slightly different version of the spice, traitors and general pond life that are the current Government.

As for the dearth of talent in British politics, the only way we sort that out as a society is to get involved, and to stop listening to the lies we are told on such a regular basis.