Current Affairs The Labour Party

[dwightschrute]

...interesting to hear John McDonnell say he’s ‘employed’ by the Conservative Party. If there is anything to support that, it will take the steam out of the situation.

He was appointed by Theresa May to be trade envoy to Israel in July

He spend the Labour conference last month standing outside with a van saying dont vote Labour

He's set up a campaign to fight extremism that is purely against Corbyn and no one else, and he himself was liken to the BNP for his views on immigration just a few years ago

Long story short he's an absolute head the ball

 

[Aberblue]

...interesting to hear John McDonnell say he’s ‘employed’ by the Conservative Party. If there is anything to support that, it will take the steam out of the situation.

From the BBC:

"Mr Austin being given the unpaid role of the prime minister's trade envoy back in the summer. "

If it's unpaid I doubt if you could say he's "employed".

 

[bluebark]

From the BBC:

"Mr Austin being given the unpaid role of the prime minister's trade envoy back in the summer. "

If it's unpaid I doubt if you could say he's "employed".

To Israel. Which kind of might matter.

 

[Eggs]

From the BBC:

"Mr Austin being given the unpaid role of the prime minister's trade envoy back in the summer. "

If it's unpaid I doubt if you could say he's "employed".

...that is interesting. I suggest he is employed, but not gainfully employed. That should take the sting out of the comments.

 

[Blue 1]

I see that turd Woodcock has stuck his oar in now, also telling people to vote for the Tories.

John Mann in about an hour's time, anyone?

 

[Moomin]

I see that turd Woodcock has stuck his oar in now, also telling people to vote for the Tories.

John Mann in about an hour's time, anyone?

Woodcock is another now employed by the Tories.

Daily Mail will have a field day tomorrow.

 

[dannyboy]

Woodcock is another now employed by the Tories.

Daily Mail will have a field day tomorrow.

Can't wait for Austin and Woodcock to be labelled as heroes of the left and respectable figures in our democracy by the Mail. The same people that they've been calling enemies of Britain for the past 30 years.

 

[Moomin]

Can't wait for Austin and Woodcock to be labelled as heroes of the left and respectable figures in our democracy by the Mail. The same people that they've been calling enemies of Britain for the past 30 years.

Moderates they have been called.

 

[Blue 1]

Moderates they have been called.

Funny way to spell c....

 

[Tubey]

One of the few things I fully agree with Corbyn's Labour on is the principle of free higher education. University should be free to those who earn it.

I'd actually support a University Tax on earnings above £250k a year. So that you definitively only pay back to the system if your career has benefited from it.

 

[tsubaki]

One of the few things I fully agree with Corbyn's Labour on is the principle of free higher education. University should be free to those who earn it.

I'd actually support a University Tax on earnings above £250k a year. So that you definitively only pay back to the system if your career has benefited from it.

TBH there is no reason why it should be set that high; put it at a much lower level (say 1% of gross pay above £25k, with 2 or 3% for Oxbridge) and it would be both less than what people pay now and would bring in enough money from enough people to provide some stability.

The only thing the state would have to do is ensure that those who moved abroad paid something back, and to keep a close eye on what universities were spending it on.

 

[Walken]

I realise there are some on here who make heartfelt and legitimate critiques of corbyn and Labour, but here is one for the daily mail headline shouters (not that anything could get through to the rabid flag wavers)

 

[Tubey]

I realise there are some on here who make heartfelt and legitimate critiques of corbyn and Labour, but here is one for the daily mail headline shouters (not that anything could get through to the rabid flag wavers)

I don't think many think Corbyn himself is anti-semitic - although it's been worryingly close to being able to seriously level that charge at him. No, the accusation that has reasonably been laid at his door is that his hatred of Israel has allowed anti-semitism to thrive in the party and that he's been unable to separate the two successfully. His attitude has acted as an enabler for those who hate Jews in the rank and file.

When he challenged the IHRA definition of anti-semitism is a case in point - it was totally unnecessary to do it, but he couldn't help himself.

Because Corbyn hasn't led effectively on the issue, that community (not all but a sizeable amount) are now worried it's the tip of the iceberg, and that Corbyn in power would enthuse these anti-semites even further.

Bercow is basically saying exactly that - the problem exists, but Corbyn himself is not an anti-semite.

 

[Tubey]

TBH there is no reason why it should be set that high; put it at a much lower level (say 1% of gross pay above £25k, with 2 or 3% for Oxbridge) and it would be both less than what people pay now and would bring in enough money from enough people to provide some stability.

The only thing the state would have to do is ensure that those who moved abroad paid something back, and to keep a close eye on what universities were spending it on.

I think it should be essentially free until you are legitimately "rich" and can afford to give back.

That's why I'd say £250k a year, and then scale it up.

That would be a very progressive tax that few could argue with.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I think it should be essentially free until you are legitimately "rich" and can afford to give back.

That's why I'd say £250k a year, and then scale it up.

That would be a very progressive tax that few could argue with.

That's missing the changing nature of education though. The days of getting a degree and that being it for the rest of your career are long gone, yet policy discussions nearly all revolve around this notion still existing. I was speaking with a couple of universities this week and there is a growing appreciation that they need to enter into almost a lifelong contract with the student and provide them with opportunities to learn and update their skills throughout life, whether that's through postgrad courses, professional short courses and so on.