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[The binman chronicles]

I can't be the only person raisin an eyebrow at this:

A Labour general election candidate has apologised for saying she would "celebrate" the deaths of world leaders, including Tony Blair.

Zarah Sultana wrote on social media in 2015: "Try and stop me when the likes of Blair, Netanyahu and Bush die."

In her apology on Monday, Ms Sultana said she had been "exasperated by endless cycles of global suffering, violence and needless killing".

She is contesting the Coventry South seat on 12 December.

In 2015, Ms Sultana also wrote of her support for "violent resistance" by Palestinians, the Jewish Chronicle reported.

She told the BBC the tweets were from a "deleted account dating back several years from when I was a student".

 

[davek]

I can't be the only person raisin an eyebrow at this:

A Labour general election candidate has apologised for saying she would "celebrate" the deaths of world leaders, including Tony Blair.

Zarah Sultana wrote on social media in 2015: "Try and stop me when the likes of Blair, Netanyahu and Bush die."

In her apology on Monday, Ms Sultana said she had been "exasperated by endless cycles of global suffering, violence and needless killing".

She is contesting the Coventry South seat on 12 December.

In 2015, Ms Sultana also wrote of her support for "violent resistance" by Palestinians, the Jewish Chronicle reported.

She told the BBC the tweets were from a "deleted account dating back several years from when I was a student".

She sounds like a goodun.

I'd vote for her.

 

[Black Belt Jones]

I can't be the only person raisin an eyebrow at this:

A Labour general election candidate has apologised for saying she would "celebrate" the deaths of world leaders, including Tony Blair.

Zarah Sultana wrote on social media in 2015: "Try and stop me when the likes of Blair, Netanyahu and Bush die."

In her apology on Monday, Ms Sultana said she had been "exasperated by endless cycles of global suffering, violence and needless killing".

She is contesting the Coventry South seat on 12 December.

In 2015, Ms Sultana also wrote of her support for "violent resistance" by Palestinians, the Jewish Chronicle reported.

She told the BBC the tweets were from a "deleted account dating back several years from when I was a student".

Guess we all shouted our fair share of cabbagery as students, it just didn't get captured and shared for all eternity like it does nowadays. Seems like such a depressingly mediocre candidate though, given its a safe seat - not been off the teat of student / union politics her whole life and will be sitting as an MP next month.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Guess we all shouted our fair share of cabbagery as students, it just didn't get captured and shared for all eternity like it does nowadays. Seems like such a depressingly mediocre candidate though, given its a safe seat - not been off the teat of student / union politics her whole life and will be sitting as an MP next month.

To be honest I didn't even read it with much interest, I just wanted to make a joke regarding her name. Hopefully she does get elected and then if she is standing next to someone like Kate Hoey (of course won't be her because she is standing down) then I can roll out some fruit & nuts gags....

I'll get my coat.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

To be honest I didn't even read it with much interest, I just wanted to make a joke regarding her name. Hopefully she does get elected and then if she is standing next to someone like Kate Hoey (of course won't be her because she is standing down) then I can roll out some fruit & nuts gags....

I'll get my coat.

She's a grape of wrath towards those politicians.

 

[zzr45]

There's 2 things I'd say mate. The first is, nobody said this about May at the time. Everyone felt she was stronger than Thatcher and Blair going into the election, and when I started trying to point out Corbyn was actually doing ok and she was flouncing they just repeated that I was deluded, Corbyn only talking to his base, I was in a bubble etc etc. May wasn't as bad as people say, a lot of the Tories problems were structural and as a result of poor strategy. Johnson bouncing around hospitals and going on about the public sector is also really poor strategy.

As for Corbyn, yes most of the promises are highly ambitious. If you look at yougov and other sites though, they have broad appeal. I'll ask you though,do you honestly think Corbyn has any chance whatsoever of winning if he fights a fairly mainstream, orthodox campaign that aims to win over left tories and liberal democrats by mediating his message? In a context of Brexit, polarisation all over the continent, Clinton being dubbed, CHUK (who promised to do that flopping) etc. I mean even peak Blair would struggle now in my view. Corbyn has no chance. He's an elderly bloke who's a principle and decent back bencher but lacks any kind of credibility of that.

His only chance is to be seen to be true to himself, it's one weapon he has, he;s seen as authentic and principled and to break such principles now would be damaging. Yes there are problems created down the line, and that will be difficult to manage. My own view is that if he wins, people will be left very underwhelmed by Corbyn, and a lot of time will be spent trying to explain that away and stop demoralisation (which if you read a lot of my posts on here even you can see I spend a fair bit of time trying to do).

I can't blame him for fighting a radical campaign though. Thats good strategy for him and the current situation.

Not really - I'm a floating voter this election. I know if I want to stop Brexit, voting Labour is probably my best option. The problem is that some of these radical messages, the framing of it as 'us vs the elite' when he's very much a member of the elite - I really don't know if I can within my own mind vote for that party. A few of the others on here have said that in reality Corbyn can't go as extreme as he has promised, but the worry is there.

 

[gonetomorrow]

Not really - I'm a floating voter this election. I know if I want to stop Brexit, voting Labour is probably my best option. The problem is that some of these radical messages, the framing of it as 'us vs the elite' when he's very much a member of the elite - I really don't know if I can within my own mind vote for that party. A few of the others on here have said that in reality Corbyn can't go as extreme as he has promised, but the worry is there.

He's promising to deal with crooked landlords and since I am currently engaged in "dialogue" on my offspring's behalf with a crowd of shysters who rent flats, it's music to my ears and a reason to put my cross in the Labour box. Whether he's elite or not I wouldn't know.

 

[catcherintherye]

Not really - I'm a floating voter this election. I know if I want to stop Brexit, voting Labour is probably my best option. The problem is that some of these radical messages, the framing of it as 'us vs the elite' when he's very much a member of the elite - I really don't know if I can within my own mind vote for that party. A few of the others on here have said that in reality Corbyn can't go as extreme as he has promised, but the worry is there.

No fair point mate and a worthwhile contribution.

I have little doubt that the pledges will lose some supporters as well as gaining others. I happen to think that we will gain a lot more than we will lose though.

The broader polls show most of the issues raised are broadly populist and people are supportive of. I'd also say that there is a fairly broad consensus in favour of ending austerity.

The question as you say is going to be how far it can be implemented.

 

[tsubaki]

Not really - I'm a floating voter this election. I know if I want to stop Brexit, voting Labour is probably my best option. The problem is that some of these radical messages, the framing of it as 'us vs the elite' when he's very much a member of the elite - I really don't know if I can within my own mind vote for that party. A few of the others on here have said that in reality Corbyn can't go as extreme as he has promised, but the worry is there.

Sorry, what? He appears to spend much of his free time on an allotment, and lives in a house that is decidedly average. Even his salary as Leader of the Opposition is half that Johnson got off the Telegraph for writing one column a week. We are talking about a man who reads Rail magazine, ffs.

 

[orchard]

Sorry, what? He appears to spend much of his free time on an allotment, and lives in a house that is decidedly average. Even his salary as Leader of the Opposition is half that Johnson got off the Telegraph for writing one column a week. We are talking about a man who reads Rail magazine, ffs.

Haha, just slap @zzr45 on ignore mate, he be trippin from that moonshine again. Fact is, ever since he got sacked, EVERYONE that don't push a trolley full o empty cans and bags round the street's THE ELITE.

 

[peteblue]

Sorry, what? He appears to spend much of his free time on an allotment, and lives in a house that is decidedly average. Even his salary as Leader of the Opposition is half that Johnson got off the Telegraph for writing one column a week. We are talking about a man who reads Rail magazine, ffs.

I don’t believe in wealthy people being allowed to have allotments. I have a neighbour who has a large garden, set up to look like Versailles, yet he has taken one of the few allotments available to the general public......

 

[zzr45]

Sorry, what? He appears to spend much of his free time on an allotment, and lives in a house that is decidedly average. Even his salary as Leader of the Opposition is half that Johnson got off the Telegraph for writing one column a week. We are talking about a man who reads Rail magazine, ffs.

Went to private school (the irony). Bumbled about a bit on gap yahhs when they weren’t a thing. Hasn’t had a proper job. Has a net worth of £3 million, including a house worth about 3 times the national average. Whatever his hobbies and interests are doesn’t particularly matter and the fact you’ve used them as a point to ground him seems odd.

He doesn’t know about the struggle people go through from first hand experience. I have no doubt he has plenty of second hand experience from his time as apparently an exceptional constituency MP. But framing himself as ‘one of us’ when he’s anything but is a bit much.

 

[zzr45]

Haha, just slap @zzr45 on ignore mate, he be trippin from that moonshine again. Fact is, ever since he got sacked, EVERYONE that don't push a trolley full o empty cans and bags round the street's THE ELITE.

Get out of my thoughts ELITE agent man!

 

[Billy Dean]

Went to private school (the irony). Bumbled about a bit on gap yahhs when they weren’t a thing. Hasn’t had a proper job. Has a net worth of £3 million, including a house worth about 3 times the national average. Whatever his hobbies and interests are doesn’t particularly matter and the fact you’ve used them as a point to ground him seems odd.

He doesn’t know about the struggle people go through from first hand experience. I have no doubt he has plenty of second hand experience from his time as apparently an exceptional constituency MP. But framing himself as ‘one of us’ when he’s anything but is a bit much.

And here is offering to tax himself more than the current government is. He wants to pay his fair share. fair play to him.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

And here is offering to tax himself more than the current government is. He wants to pay his fair share. fair play to him.

He could do that anyway though couldn't he? Nothing stopping him donating most of his salary to St Mary's hospital, or his local school/s. What was it Oscar Wilde said? Selfishness isn't doing what you want to do, it's getting other people to do what you want to do. That sadly seems to be the Labour creed a lot of the time. They won't be happy until everyone lives in the righteous way they do.