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[zzr45]

So, in less than five posts we pivot from 'Labour hold the average voter in utter contempt' to 'Labour is wrong to implement policies that the average voter clearly supports because the average voter is stupid and should be held in utter contempt.'

At least try to keep your story straight? ; )

You might notice than me and Bruce are in fact different people who have different views.

I see Labour constantly trying to wash over concerns people have with spending and the actual costs of things with lazy hand waving.

 

[abelard]

You might notice than me and Bruce are in fact different people who have different views.

I see Labour constantly trying to wash over concerns people have with spending and the actual costs of things with lazy hand waving.

I noticed that you liked his post.

 

[peteblue]

Without knowing full details yet, from what I've read so far I'm a little disappointed in this especially if the consequence really would be the "abolishment" of private schools. Something a little bit more pragmatic is needed.

It’s dog whistle politics to keep momentum happy......

 

[peteblue]

I noticed that you liked his post.

Liking someone’s post isn’t really a sin. I like people’s posts when I totally disagree with them but I like the argument they are putting forward....

 

[zzr45]

I noticed that you liked his post.

Yes. Sometimes I like posts from posters with completely different political outlooks to mine too. Because they are actually posts that stimulate good debate and thinking.

Anyway, in between those 5 posts I asked you a question on something you posted which you seemed to have ducked? Maybe stop trying to play Billy big ones when you’re not capable of actually playing the game yourself?

 

[peteblue]

Polling shows people support a higher rate of tax. It´s a big vote winner. Like a lot of Labour´s policies.

People always support a higher rate of tax, for other people.......

 

[Billy Dean]

Not crap but...

Great Britain. At 5.4, Great Britain has an excellent rating for safety. However, its rating for intensity of use is only good, owing to a low level of freight utilization, and its quality of service is poor because of high fares and the relatively low punctuality of regional trains.

 

[zzr45]

Not crap but...

Great Britain. At 5.4, Great Britain has an excellent rating for safety. However, its rating for intensity of use is only good, owing to a low level of freight utilization, and its quality of service is poor because of high fares and the relatively low punctuality of regional trains.

Are rail fares out of control? – Full Fact

The average rail fare in Britain has increased by 20% in real terms since 1995, though it dropped by 1% between 2017 and 2018.

fullfact.org

First Hull Trains at 22% punctuality. lol

 

[Joey66]

No it isn't ; I see you're following your fellow traveller @peteblue in beginning to use the annoying habit of posting ellipsis, (wrongly I might add.)

His Dad was a Tory very rich he obviously comes from born with a silver spoon in his gob, to being a rebel left wing Marxist making his money that way........

 

[neil999]

i'm really glad that i defended labour when people were saying they were marxist/extreme/unelectable policies and i asked people to point to actual policies...oh

 

[Black Belt Jones]

i'm really glad that i defended labour when people were saying they were marxist/extreme/unelectable policies and i asked people to point to actual policies...oh

Calling for abolition of private schools is empty sloganeering on the one hand, but it can also be effective realpolitik - by staking out an extreme position it frames the debate around what you really want, which is the removal of charitable status from private schools. This now becomes the gravitational centre of the issue and appears reasonable and achievable (which it fundamentally is anyhow, but politics is all about building a mandate and making an issue timely).

 

[neil999]

Calling for abolition of private schools is empty sloganeering on the one hand, but it can also be effective realpolitik - by staking out an extreme position it frames the debate around what you really want, which is the removal of charitable status from private schools. This now becomes the gravitational centre of the issue and appears reasonable and achievable (which it fundamentally is anyhow, but politics is all about building a mandate and making an issue timely).

yep...but isnt that what lobbyist/pressure groups do...not a party that actually wants to win an election

 

[Dymak]

Dangerous lunatics!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Calling for abolition of private schools is empty sloganeering on the one hand, but it can also be effective realpolitik - by staking out an extreme position it frames the debate around what you really want, which is the removal of charitable status from private schools. This now becomes the gravitational centre of the issue and appears reasonable and achievable (which it fundamentally is anyhow, but politics is all about building a mandate and making an issue timely).

Can't vouch for its accuracy, but the bloke from the independent schools body this morning was saying over half of independent schools don't have charitable status anyway. Seems a risky strategy for relatively little reward.

 

[neil999]

32 hour week now...they have gone full mental