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What, left leaning people are in Momentum, never. That evil Jon Lansman mind controlling Constituency Labour Party members, keep repeating it then becomes the truth...
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What, left leaning people are in Momentum, never. That evil Jon Lansman mind controlling Constituency Labour Party members, keep repeating it then becomes the truth...
tsubaki
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CLP officers, Tubey - that CLP apparently has more than 3000 members. Also the article says "Corbyn-supporting" not "Momentum" candidates, though they seem to have stood on a Momentum slate.
Do you actually have any evidence that they want to get rid of Harman?
What, left leaning people are in Momentum never. That evil Jon Landsman mind controlling Constituency Labour Party members, keep repeating it then becomes the truth...
It is the truth. Nothing I just said was incorrect. The Momentum dominated CLP are threatening Harman with deselection and using the speaker role of impartiality as a false premise to do so.
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er - quite a lot you said was incorrect
Good lord...
tsubaki
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So that is a no, then. I did wonder why the savage zealots of Momentum had waited more than a year to try to deselect Harman, and then chose to do it via a motion that would not have deselected her when it passed.
Look, seriously though, you can't just make believe like a situation exists that doesn't, just because it doesn't make your cause look favourable.
With Harman, there's quite clearly been an insurgency locally to have the 'left' dominate while she's painted as 'the right'. And to ask for evidence of Momentum wanting rid of Harman is just ludicrous - of course they bloody do. It's like asking for evidence they want rid of Tom Watson.
Sometimes you've got to just call a spade a spade and stop blindly defending everything regardless of logic or common sense.
The Momentum dominated CLP are threatening Harman with deselection and using the speaker role of impartiality as a false premise to do so. That is a fact.
With Harman, there's quite clearly been an insurgency locally to have the 'left' dominate while she's painted as 'the right'. And to ask for evidence of Momentum wanting rid of Harman is just ludicrous - of course they bloody do. It's like asking for evidence they want rid of Tom Watson.
Sometimes you've got to just call a spade a spade and stop blindly defending everything regardless of logic or common sense.
The Momentum dominated CLP are threatening Harman with deselection and using the speaker role of impartiality as a false premise to do so. That is a fact.
Because it's a co-ordinated, insidiuous attempt to change when the opportunity arises. The local membership went from 500 to 3,000, with Momentum overwhelmingly the CLP. She announces she runs for speaker, they spot an opening. If they just all-out went for deselections all over the shop they'd be accused of 'purging' the party; they're accutely aware of the optics of doing so.
You're not daft, you know this perfectly well - you're simply pretending you don't.
tsubaki
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The only fact in this argument of yours is that most of the officers in the CLP are now from the left.
Everything else - the "insurgency" (which is an odd way to describe people being elected to positions), the "Momentum wanting rid of Harman", threatening her with deselection and the claim that the motion which was passed was in fact passed for another reason (even though the reason given actually makes the "hidden" reason impossible) is just what you think, unsupported as it is by any actual evidence that you can share with the forum (though it is in line with your other thinking on this issue).
Personally, I'd have thought that if they really wanted to get rid of her and dominated the CLP to the extent you claim, then they'd either have gone down the vote of no confidence route (as the CLP I am in have done with Hoey, though she jumped before she was pushed) or waited until the trigger ballot process comes around. They might do that, though I have extreme doubts that they would given Harman's profile, the statements from the central party on the Speaker issue, the chance she will win the Speakers election and the fact that even Coyle - who is far more disliked - got past the trigger ballots on the first try.
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And? Because all I'm reading is someone who is aghast at a legitimate Democrat process. Harriett Harman will stand accountable, to the constituency Labour party, either join and vote in her corner or vote elsewhere completely.
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£9.00 for prescription charges, had no idea it was so much these days... Good move to abolish charges certainly encourage people to take prescribed preventative medications.
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Labour pledges to stop NHS prescription charges
Labour is to announce a pledge to abolish prescription charges in England at its party conference next week.
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Prescription charges are a waste of time. We abolished them in Wales years ago, and usage went up at almost exactly the same level as England, which still had charges. Over 60s (who get most of the prescriptions) and under 16s get them free already. It probably costs more to administer the charges than it brings in as revenue.£9.00 for prescription charges, had no idea it was so much these days... Good move to abolish charges certainly encourage people to take prescribed preventative medications.
Labour pledges to stop NHS prescription charges
Labour is to announce a pledge to abolish prescription charges in England at its party conference next week.
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It’s the good old Labour ‘punish those doing alright’ method as per usual.
And scanning through Twitter - it’ll cost an extra 3bn to accommodate private school kids. Loss of overseas fees - some small villages essentially being bankrupted, cost of actually absorbing the private schools into the state sector.
Labour.
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Sorry mate, you got me at scanning Twitter for precise details... X
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