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Why is he a danger? Is he going to make people have to go to foodbanks, or privatise the NHS or attack the most vulnerable and needy in society? Or wear crap suits, not bow low enough or wear the wrong poppy?
He and Macdonnel are pure Marxist with a very poor record on economics.....look I would love a moderate Labour leader even a bit leftie .....
 
He and Macdonnel are pure Marxist with a very poor record on economics.....look I would love a moderate Labour leader even a bit leftie .....

What is their record on economics? As far as I'm aware they haven't been in ministerial positions serving in government
So when did they create the largest borrowing record by a government to subsidise tax breaks for supranational corporations and the upper bands while cutting services, benefits and social support as well as selling off more national assets than the mad bat Thatcher did.
As for 'bit leftie', if you've voted labour all the years you claim then you've voted for policies much further to the left than any of Corbyn or McDonnells.
 
What is their record on economics? As far as I'm aware they haven't been in ministerial positions serving in government
So when did they create the largest borrowing record by a government to subsidise tax breaks for supranational corporations and the upper bands while cutting services, benefits and social support as well as selling off more national assets than the mad bat Thatcher did.
As for 'bit leftie', if you've voted labour all the years you claim then you've voted for policies much further to the left than any of Corbyn or McDonnells.
Local authorities awful records both of them McDonnell treasurer of the GLC- Corbyn could not run his house hold budget ....
 
But they're a crap opposition.



It's hard to imagine how any opposition could fail to be winning right now. Remainers obviously hate the Tories, but leavers must also hate them for the pigs ear they're making of Brexit. The only depressing thing is that they're still pulling in 29% of the votes (and that UKIP are polling 11% ffs). What on earth are people voting for?
 
It's hard to imagine how any opposition could fail to be winning right now. Remainers obviously hate the Tories, but leavers must also hate them for the pigs ear they're making of Brexit. The only depressing thing is that they're still pulling in 29% of the votes (and that UKIP are polling 11% ffs). What on earth are people voting for?
A large proportion of the population will vote Tory no matter what. The same with labour. I imagine many people also vote Tory so as not to have a labour government and again vice versa.
 
A large proportion of the population will vote Tory no matter what. The same with labour. I imagine many people also vote Tory so as not to have a labour government and again vice versa.

That's arguably the saddest thing, that no real third party has materialised despite such poor performances from the two big guns. This is especially so in the centre ground, with the only break out from the Tories seeming to be an even harder form of conservatism, and no real gains seen in a more liberal leftism either.
 
That's arguably the saddest thing, that no real third party has materialised despite such poor performances from the two big guns. This is especially so in the centre ground, with the only break out from the Tories seeming to be an even harder form of conservatism, and no real gains seen in a more liberal leftism either.
Very difficult for any new party to succeed though with our political system. You saw the Lib Dem’s riding high before the coalition and they hardly turned many seats.
 
Jeremy Corbyn has privately expressed concern that evidence of anti-Semitism within Labour was "mislaid or ignored", leaked recordings suggest.

The Sunday Times has released part of a conversation the party leader had with Dame Margaret Hodge, which she taped.

The Barking MP has been a fierce critic of Mr Corbyn's stance on anti-Semitism.

A Labour spokesman said the tape showed Mr Corbyn's desire for "robust and efficient" procedures and to "rebuild trust with the Jewish community".

Throughout much of his leadership, Mr Corbyn has been dogged by criticism from within the party about his handling of anti-Semitism claims.

Last year he became embroiled in a row with Dame Margaret over the issue, which saw the party launch - and then drop - disciplinary action against the long-serving Jewish MP.

She secretly recorded a conversation between the pair in February, as Mr Corbyn talked over a plan to recruit former cabinet minister Lord Falconer to review the party's complaints process.

"Just to reassure you, he's not going to be running the system; he's not entitled to do that," the Labour leader says on the tape, which was given to the Sunday Times.

"He will look at the speed of dealing with cases, the administration of them and the collation of the evidence before it's put before appropriate panels... because I was concerned that it was either being mislaid, ignored or not used, and there had to be some better system."

In March, Dame Margaret claimed Mr Corbyn had misled her - or been misled by his staff - over assurances the leader's office was not involved in disciplinary procedures.

Labour dismissed the suggestion as "categorically untrue".

Last week, the Jewish Labour Movement voted to pass a motion of no confidence in the Labour leader.

Its national secretary Peter Mason said reports of delays, inaction and interference from the leader's office showed the party's processes were "incapable of dealing with anti-Jewish racism".

'Vile racism'
Dame Margaret is among seven Labour MPs to write to the Sunday Times this weekend, calling for a "fully independent body" to deal with complaints of racism, harassment and bullying.

They complain of "a growing backlog of unresolved cases of vile racism".

"Despite telling us things are better, the party has clearly failed to get to grips with its anti-Semitism problem," the letter says.

"The current complaints system is broken. There must be a real change at the top of the party."

'Fully investigated'
However, a Labour spokesman said: "The Labour Party takes all complaints of anti-Semitism extremely seriously and we are committed to challenging and campaigning against it in all its forms.

"All complaints about anti-Semitism are fully investigated in line with our rules and procedures and any appropriate disciplinary action is taken."

A party source told the BBC that before Jennie Formby became general secretary a year ago, there had been concerns that Jewish activists not in breach of rules were targeted, while efforts to tackle clear cut cases of anti-Semitism were obstructed.

 
Jeremy Corbyn has privately expressed concern that evidence of anti-Semitism within Labour was "mislaid or ignored", leaked recordings suggest.

The Sunday Times has released part of a conversation the party leader had with Dame Margaret Hodge, which she taped.

The Barking MP has been a fierce critic of Mr Corbyn's stance on anti-Semitism.

A Labour spokesman said the tape showed Mr Corbyn's desire for "robust and efficient" procedures and to "rebuild trust with the Jewish community".

Throughout much of his leadership, Mr Corbyn has been dogged by criticism from within the party about his handling of anti-Semitism claims.

Last year he became embroiled in a row with Dame Margaret over the issue, which saw the party launch - and then drop - disciplinary action against the long-serving Jewish MP.

She secretly recorded a conversation between the pair in February, as Mr Corbyn talked over a plan to recruit former cabinet minister Lord Falconer to review the party's complaints process.

"Just to reassure you, he's not going to be running the system; he's not entitled to do that," the Labour leader says on the tape, which was given to the Sunday Times.

"He will look at the speed of dealing with cases, the administration of them and the collation of the evidence before it's put before appropriate panels... because I was concerned that it was either being mislaid, ignored or not used, and there had to be some better system."

In March, Dame Margaret claimed Mr Corbyn had misled her - or been misled by his staff - over assurances the leader's office was not involved in disciplinary procedures.

Labour dismissed the suggestion as "categorically untrue".

Last week, the Jewish Labour Movement voted to pass a motion of no confidence in the Labour leader.

Its national secretary Peter Mason said reports of delays, inaction and interference from the leader's office showed the party's processes were "incapable of dealing with anti-Jewish racism".

'Vile racism'
Dame Margaret is among seven Labour MPs to write to the Sunday Times this weekend, calling for a "fully independent body" to deal with complaints of racism, harassment and bullying.

They complain of "a growing backlog of unresolved cases of vile racism".

"Despite telling us things are better, the party has clearly failed to get to grips with its anti-Semitism problem," the letter says.

"The current complaints system is broken. There must be a real change at the top of the party."

'Fully investigated'
However, a Labour spokesman said: "The Labour Party takes all complaints of anti-Semitism extremely seriously and we are committed to challenging and campaigning against it in all its forms.

"All complaints about anti-Semitism are fully investigated in line with our rules and procedures and any appropriate disciplinary action is taken."

A party source told the BBC that before Jennie Formby became general secretary a year ago, there had been concerns that Jewish activists not in breach of rules were targeted, while efforts to tackle clear cut cases of anti-Semitism were obstructed.

Jesus Christ. It's like clockwork.
 
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