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[Joey66]

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If anyone wants to borrow an Enigma machine, I’ve just ordered one off EBay.

Having ore hallucinations again are we ?

 

[Aberblue]

Public sector workers also get a very generous defined pension, topped up to the tune of several Billion every year by the taxpayer, this type of pension is now only available to about 7% of those in the private sector. And btw, the private sector workers also keep this country running and feeding it as well…..

The point about public sector pensions was repeatedly raised by employers when having wage negotiations over the years when I was a trade unionist, as a reason for making below inflation wage offers. This goes back over decades. Public sector pay rises have been below the inflation rate for over a decade so the recent increase simply goes a small way to balance this.

In the matter of doctors, as catcherintherye says below, junior doctors can easily leave for places like Australia and Canada if we don't pay them properly, and a growing number do just that.

As for pensioners' winter fuel allowance, I can't see why they don't retain it, but make it taxable.

 

[davek]

Received this from age U.K. earlier today…

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Age UK just look after all the rich pensioners though...

 

[StDomingosGringo]

Those defending retaining the universal payment of a WFA seem to like binary choices so here’s the one.

2.1 million pensioners earn more than double the average annual salary & receive WFA

4.5 million children in poverty.

One of these groups has also seen consistent “inflation busting” increases to their household income. Can you guess which?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That bike of yours - easily done - every energy bill stang charge part of it is to blot the landscape with on shore windmills - surely tidal power is a better alternative thevtide works 12 months of the year .

A single ChatGPT query uses around 2.9 watt-hours of electricity. I hope @COYBL25 is more energy efficient each time he has to translate something.

 

[Joey66]

A single ChatGPT query uses around 2.9 watt-hours of electricity. I hope @COYBL25 is more energy efficient each time he has to translate something.

I fear this Labour government will flop - I voted for them in good faith I did not want a Labour cabinet in blue rosettes to get public services back to where they once were is a great policy,but I can ot see it happening- cronyism- Starmer & Co poll rating has plummeted in 8 weeks the OBI warned them about the deficit before they gained power ...
Let's see how it pans out ...

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I fear this Labour government will flop - I voted for them in good faith I did not want a Labour cabinet in blue rosettes to get public services back to where they once were is a great policy,but I can ot see it happening- cronyism- Starmer & Co poll rating has plummeted in 8 weeks the OBI warned them about the deficit before they gained power ...
Let's see how it pans out ...

I'm going to save the planet and try and figure this one out on my own @COYBL25

 

[COYBL25]

I'm going to save the planet and try and figure this one out on my own @COYBL25

Would you like to borrow my Enigma machine ?

 

[Xizor]

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Blimey, is pete trying to top up his lost WFA payments by charging Joey for posting classes?

 

[peteblue]

Both of those things are true.

It was more the idea that public sector pay has kept up with inflation, or pay rises have gone above inflation. I'm not aware of any, outside of junior doctors that have been above the 11% of inflation, or subsequent rises.

We can all bleat on, but your problem is, junior doctors just leave if you don't pay them, and you get a brain drain. That's the reality. It's a free market our there.

How many left before the pay rise….

 

[peteblue]

Those defending retaining the universal payment of a WFA seem to like binary choices so here’s the one.

2.1 million pensioners earn more than double the average annual salary & receive WFA

4.5 million children in poverty.

One of these groups has also seen consistent “inflation busting” increases to their household income. Can you guess which?

So why not give the WFA money to children in poverty rather than train drivers and doctors……

 

[Rita_Poon]

 

[StDomingosGringo]

So why not give the WFA money to children in poverty rather than train drivers and doctors……

I’d have to see your maths but I doubt the junior doctors & train drivers are taking up ALL the money Pete.

ASLEF are not a patch on the Spanish Coal miners union.

 

[peteblue]

I’d have to see your maths but I doubt the junior doctors & train drivers are taking up ALL the money Pete.

ASLEF are not a patch on the Spanish Coal miners union.

There will be no money. A million OAPs can apply for pension credit etc which would pay about £4K each and then still get the WFA. So 7-8 million lose £300- £400 but that will be dwarfed by the extra 1 million getting £4,000 plus £300. Do the maths, this will save no money, it will cost more money and Labour are digging their own black holes……

 

[Rita_Poon]

And in a move so practiced by another of the forums long term cranks, the U turn is arrived at.

Now labour are not demonized for stealing from the most impoverished pensioners and most vulnerable, but for giving the very same to much money and not costing appropriately.

Here it is, the old hypocrisy highway.