Cash out? Or just watch Pete keep digging....
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Cash out? Or just watch Pete keep digging....
He'll have truss down for countdown champion by tomorrow...
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
He's good at pretending is De Piffle, depends on which way the wind is blowing.
Pete, I know you are old enough to know what Politics is all about, its deception, the whole thing is a magic trick.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I know, and I also know that they are all similar but wear different coloured badges……same shiite, different party……
To use a football analogy, your boys have had a go, but you lost every game, its time to give somebody else the job.
My dad was a car mechanic who had his own workshop. He'll be pleased to know he was actually upper class all this time. I'll tell him he's actually on a par with the blokes who own General Motors.
There's a misconception from rabid right wingers that Labour supporters see family wealth as an exclusion to socialist values, when in fact right wing politicians being a sociopathic, corrupt, anti-science, bigoted scumbags is what puts me off them.
It absolutely blows peoples minds when they find out working class people aren't all poor scum.
You can be classed as working class and be relatively well off. Some of us have daily showers these days.
Stammer probably hams up the working class stuff a bit too much, but he's a lot more working class than a lot of people we see these days claim the same.
He's the most normal and relatable person we've had running for PM in a long time.
He's just sold his soul so has to act like a weirdo now because that's the way to power apparently
You can be classed as working class and be relatively well off. Some of us have daily showers these days.
Stammer probably hams up the working class stuff a bit too much, but he's a lot more working class than a lot of people we see these days claim the same.
He's the most normal and relatable person we've had running for PM in a long time.
He's just sold his soul so has to act like a weirdo now because that's the way to power apparently
They also give away how they see social status as being some sort of inherent character trait.
"He couldn't have been properly working class, he was successful in his field".
The implication being that the working classes are incapable of making anything of their lives (and if they do then they were probably middle class all along). I suppose it helps them feel less guilty about being born into a bit of money and privilege:
"Well I'm a higher class, so I'm the sort of person that succeeds in life and I actually deserve the various legs up I've had with my private education, family cash buying me a house etc"
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On the subject of 'champagne socialists' (so to speak), there's a good bit in one of the Jonathan Pie BBC radio show episodes where he says that you need to have them, because if it was only the poor underclasses ever advocating for themselves then nothing would ever have been done to better their lot.
Well said mate, especially the opening line. Empathy is an alien emotion to them.
It's why I hate the likes of Jack Monroe and Supertan and others of their ilk.
They only mention being working class when they get the begging bowl out and want pity. They associate working class with poverty and a lower standard of living.
They're not working class and have probably never interacted with working class people in their life.
Their experience of working class is through the media. Shameless, Jeremy Kyle, hug a hoodie, asbos, tracksuits, Harry Enfield, all that rubbish.
It's where all the twee swearing comes from. Middle class idiots who think working class people are walking round swearing all the time, incapable of approaching a subject without aggression. This is them trying to come across as working class and failing massively.
Working class people can see through these chancers. I don't think Starmer is one of these people, even if he does play up to it a bit much but it's all part of the game isn't it.
It also doesn't matter your class or where you come from. There's been plenty of socialists, unionists and very left wing people who were brought up in privilege.
They only mention being working class when they get the begging bowl out and want pity. They associate working class with poverty and a lower standard of living.
They're not working class and have probably never interacted with working class people in their life.
Their experience of working class is through the media. Shameless, Jeremy Kyle, hug a hoodie, asbos, tracksuits, Harry Enfield, all that rubbish.
It's where all the twee swearing comes from. Middle class idiots who think working class people are walking round swearing all the time, incapable of approaching a subject without aggression. This is them trying to come across as working class and failing massively.
Working class people can see through these chancers. I don't think Starmer is one of these people, even if he does play up to it a bit much but it's all part of the game isn't it.
It also doesn't matter your class or where you come from. There's been plenty of socialists, unionists and very left wing people who were brought up in privilege.
Thomasc
Formerly known as By God I'm Blue
My dad told me he was middle class a few months ago, it was at that time that I lost what little respect I had for him left.
He’s from absolute poverty, ran an ale house, tighter than a submarine door, always tries to do everything on the cheap but wait for it………..votes Tory.
Almost like a parody of someone wanting to portray themselves as something they are not.
Belies their hatred and suspicion of social mobility. Fear of it actually. They never want a truly meritocratic society because it means the brightest and best from the bottom rise at the expense of the thickest and worst higher up.
In the current system the latter seem to end up as MPs. How strange.
Mine is kind of a Lee Anderson type.
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