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Quite possibly one of the best political interviews I've seen.



I watched the whole interview live. Most know Galloway is an idiot be it excellent oratacal value. Most people are laughing at him not with him, although his description of Sunak does have some truths. And Sam Coates looked unprepared for all the crap Galloway can splurge. Still he's been elected by a democratic process. He has a mandate and a voice in democratic process. Don't reckon he will MP this time next year.
 
I watched the whole interview live. Most know Galloway is an idiot be it excellent oratacal value. Most people are laughing at him not with him, although his description of Sunak does have some truths. And Sam Coates looked unprepared for all the crap Galloway can splurge. Still he's been elected by a democratic process. He has a mandate and a voice in democratic process. Don't reckon he will MP this time next year.

….be fascinating who Labour put up in that constituency in the GE. They’ll certainly need to do thorough background checks into their candidate.
 
….be fascinating who Labour put up in that constituency in the GE. They’ll certainly need to do thorough background checks into their candidate.
It’ll have to be somebody with a better track record than the last candidate. If the same number of candidates stand again I can see him winning again only it will probably be be much closer. Quite a lot of the other smaller parties drew off valuable votes, ie Tully with 6,000. It could possibly be neck and neck next time.
Starmer and the Labour Party will have to do be doing a lot more than just not being the Tories.
 
….be fascinating who Labour put up in that constituency in the GE. They’ll certainly need to do thorough background checks into their candidate.

Do that and I think they guarantee Galloway retains that seat in the GE.

Labour lost that seat because it required their candidate to not deviate from a policy that is unpopular amongst the country at large, never mind the constituency in question. He was put on the back foot at the start because of that and then, in an attempt to turn things around, over-spoke and the national party destroyed their own campaign rather than recognize the immense burden they had placed on him.

To win at the next GE - and this applies to every constituency by the way - they have to allow MPs and PPCs to express an independent opinion on this issue at least, one that may differ from what is coming out of Starmer's clique. Attempts to enforce the cliques line will fail, probably as spectacularly as they did here because Labour people will vote for an alternative and in large numbers. Purging MPs who do not follow whatever the clique are saying is short-sighted and frankly naive; they are the ones who have to win in order for Labour to form the next government and they will not do that as mere clones.

They could also look at not taking on battles that they will obviously lose just for the sake of it, such as running against Corbyn (if he stands as an independent).
 
Do that and I think they guarantee Galloway retains that seat in the GE.

Labour lost that seat because it required their candidate to not deviate from a policy that is unpopular amongst the country at large, never mind the constituency in question. He was put on the back foot at the start because of that and then, in an attempt to turn things around, over-spoke and the national party destroyed their own campaign rather than recognize the immense burden they had placed on him.

To win at the next GE - and this applies to every constituency by the way - they have to allow MPs and PPCs to express an independent opinion on this issue at least, one that may differ from what is coming out of Starmer's clique. Attempts to enforce the cliques line will fail, probably as spectacularly as they did here because Labour people will vote for an alternative and in large numbers. Purging MPs who do not follow whatever the clique are saying is short-sighted and frankly naive; they are the ones who have to win in order for Labour to form the next government and they will not do that as mere clones.

They could also look at not taking on battles that they will obviously lose just for the sake of it, such as running against Corbyn (if he stands as an independent).

…there has to be a chance the status of that conflict is different by the time the GE comes around, at least that’s what Labour will be hoping.
 
Do that and I think they guarantee Galloway retains that seat in the GE.

Labour lost that seat because it required their candidate to not deviate from a policy that is unpopular amongst the country at large, never mind the constituency in question. He was put on the back foot at the start because of that and then, in an attempt to turn things around, over-spoke and the national party destroyed their own campaign rather than recognize the immense burden they had placed on him.

To win at the next GE - and this applies to every constituency by the way - they have to allow MPs and PPCs to express an independent opinion on this issue at least, one that may differ from what is coming out of Starmer's clique. Attempts to enforce the cliques line will fail, probably as spectacularly as they did here because Labour people will vote for an alternative and in large numbers. Purging MPs who do not follow whatever the clique are saying is short-sighted and frankly naive; they are the ones who have to win in order for Labour to form the next government and they will not do that as mere clones.

They could also look at not taking on battles that they will obviously lose just for the sake of it, such as running against Corbyn (if he stands as an independent).

I get this, but it’s a tricky line to walk between independent views and positions, and towing the party line. Sometimes you’ve gotta get behind the party position for the greater good (in this case winning the election).

I’ve gone on strike from work having voted against a strike in the ballot. The unified position of strength is where power lies.

The other potential problem is allowing MPs a completely free voice on the issue, and some MPs mis stepping in their rhetoric.

That Rochdale guy mis stepped into saying the Israeli gov deliberately allowed the attacks to happen, but a lesser snafu would probably attract a similar response form the media and damage the party overall.

As I say, I get your post completely, and you might be right. But there’s a tricky path to negotiate in terms of what will do the least damage to the party.
 
I watched the whole interview live. Most know Galloway is an idiot be it excellent oratacal value. Most people are laughing at him not with him, although his description of Sunak does have some truths. And Sam Coates looked unprepared for all the crap Galloway can splurge. Still he's been elected by a democratic process. He has a mandate and a voice in democratic process. Don't reckon he will MP this time next year.
Yeah, I think Galloway is an excellent orator and I particularly liked the way he controlled the narrative of that interview, in much the same way that Mick Lynch does. He didn't tell any lies or exaggerate anything which I dont think many mainstream politicians can claim to do, but there again there wasn't that much substance.

Reckon GE night is going to throw up a few surprises and he may very well be one of them. After all, it seems Starmer has well and truly pissed on his chips with muslim voters and who could blame them. Just like the working class they have zero party representation in parliament.
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George Galloway is a monumental bellend
He very much is, and has made a career out of fighting dirty. I reckon he's lower than slime, but I begrudgingly admire his capacity to poke a few self important twits* in the eye and be on his way giggling. Not many fronted Paxman down, a rare skill. Wouldn't surprise me if the labour candidate was taped on the sly by someone galloway knows. That by election landed in his lap like it was tailor made for him. How many times can he produce such magic.
 


This one?

Wow, nothing changes does it. .

Representatives of the three main parties discussing voter disillusionment due to political parties promising change and delivering absolutely nothing. Galloway describing the three agendas that all three main parties have in common, namely neo liberal politics, foreign war and cuts to public expenditure and then rather aptly describing them as three cheeks of the same arse.

Bit weird that speech Sunak made yesterday just after the result of the by election, I reckon they know that there are going to be some VERY uncomfortable statements made in the commons in the near future, with politicians and the massively compliant client media doing their level best to smear the source of those statements. Its gonna be fun watching them all squirm, especially Starmer

Couldn't help but feel massively gaslit after the Sunak speech, reckon him and Starmer came to some sort of deal regarding public order.

The louder ya scream the faster we'll go!
 
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