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[orchard]

I have to agree with @davek when it comes to Starmer.

I sadly voted for him to become leader as his ten pledges I could get behind. All of them in the bin shortly after.

Can't believe I'm still paying to be a member of the party, might have to cancel that this week.

It seems like it's the US option now.
Do you want Corporations destroying your rights, environment and social fabric:

a) Nice and slow please, play some Barry White.
b) Hard and fast baby, i'm ready and can hardly contain myself.

I agree with Dave to an extent on the LP. I never voted for, or liked Blair, always struck me as too totalitarian, and I think Starmer's heading the same way thanks to the goof-balls that have been holding the party to ransom since Blair and have rolled back on the democratic party changes that have been made. Yeah, the democracy thing does allow some freakishly-'progressive' voices to be heard, but they're never going to prevail in a democratic environment, but it's done enough to be exploited by the media and make people scared that Citizen Smith would be running the country as a communist state, whereas most of the people being side lined by this lurch to the right of the party are ordinary citizens that want the country well run whilst tempering greed.

 

[davek]

You will get banned way before that.

Thin ice.

 

[davek]

Why don’t you stand for Parliament with the cat as your rosette? You could heckle Starmer from the back benches.

I wouldn't bother about heckling him...

 

[davek]

I have to agree with @davek when it comes to Starmer.

I sadly voted for him to become leader as his ten pledges I could get behind. All of them in the bin shortly after.

Can't believe I'm still paying to be a member of the party, might have to cancel that this week.

You aren't alone in that mate...even on here. @Connor made the same mistake as I recall.

 

[Connor]

You aren't alone in that mate...even on here. @Connor made the same mistake as I recall.

Yep. Should have voted for RLB and been comfortable with that

 

[TheWinslowBoy]

You aren't alone in that mate...even on here. @Connor made the same mistake as I recall.

Me too, utter idiot.

I really wanted to support RLB, and for some reason Starmer convinced me he would still pursue centre-left policies.

"Fool me once, shame on, shame on you,
Fool me....you can't get fooled again" as a wise man once said

I left the party two years ago, after the PLP took back control from the membership.

 

[davek]

Yep. Should have voted for RLB and been comfortable with that

TBF, I suppose you have to say that no one could have expected him to turn so quickly and fully to the far right in the Labour Party and renege on any promise made. He's a very sinister character.

The trick is for others here and elsewhere to learn from that mistake that the majority of LP members made and never hand him support ever again.

 

[davek]

Me too, utter idiot.

I really wanted to support RLB, and for some reason Starmer convinced me he would still pursue centre-left policies.

"Fool me once, shame on, shame on you,
Fool me....you can't get fooled again" as a wise man once said

I left the party two years ago, after the PLP took back control from the membership.

Along with 170,000 other LP members mate.

There's an army of people waiting to be activated if an alternative is set up.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Yes. Maybe it's also worth reflecting that if it wasn't a FPTP electoral system, they could possibly generate a lot more votes.

Quite possibly, but we are where we are.

 

[orchard]

Quite possibly, but we are where we are.

Probably. Of course we are, and obviously we need Tories out.

 

[davek]

‘Starmer Is Complicit in Dehumanising Palestinians’: Why Labour Councillors Are Leaving

Labour has been rocked by a wave of resignations after Keir Starmer endorsed the collective punishment of Palestine. One councillor leaving the party explains why

tribunemag.co.uk

In a letter to the Labour Party, I explained how the general disregard for the concerns of Muslim members is further highlighted by its dealing with incidents in our own Labour group in Kensington and Chelsea. The party has persistently failed to respond to serious evidence of racism, including an incident of Islamophobic hate speech reported against a Labour councillor in our group. The councillor in question received an administrative suspension but remained a Labour Party member, revealing an unacceptable double standard where certain forms of racism are more tolerated than others.

In November 2020, the Labour Muslim Network released a report on Islamophobia within the Labour Party. The report, which constituted the largest-ever consultation of Muslim members and supporters of Labour, found 29 percent of Muslim Labour members had suffered Islamophobia within the party while 37 percent had witnessed it. 44 percent said Labour doesn’t take Islamophobia seriously, and more than half of those surveyed said they didn’t trust the Labour leadership to tackle it.

Utterly damning for any Labour leadership. They've presided over that, as they have when ignoring racism toward party members from Afro-Caribbean backgrounds.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Who knew Dave was a Peteblue multi all this time.

 

[Tin-Tin]

The 'Labour' Party is not the home for anyone decent anymore.

How there are still people who describe themselves as on the left who remain in that cesspitt I don't know. I have no sympathy for them either. Remaining in it hands that party cover to appeal to ordinary working class voters...voters they won't lift a finger to help when in office.

If there's any LP member on this forum I implore them:

LEAVE THAT PARTY BEHIND. GET OUT AND FORM A NEW PARTY.

When we have electoral reform then I agree. Right now the priority is to remove the Tories. Thats all that matters, so I will be voting Labour.

 

[davek]

When we have electoral reform then I agree. Right now the priority is to remove the Tories. Thats all that matters, so I will be voting Labour.

Get rid of the Tories by voting for the Tories. It makes perfect sense...

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

The Tories won't do any worse than Starmer's lot will. There'll be no difference.

Better to crush'Labour' and start again with a new party of the left funded by the unions.

We've needed an alternative to 'Labour' for decades now, and Corbyn's time in office underlined why it's not possible to have progress inside the LP.

Go back to your home, the BUF.