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It would not.

It would get back to the absolute worst days of Blair.

The party needs to move on from people like him.

….decent, intellectual. Labour needs brains, the sooner the likes of him & Andy Burnham gets back the better it will be. i worked throughout the best days of Blair & if the country’s public services can return to that standard then it’ll be in a far better place than now.

i remember Sky’s Tim Marshall interviewing David Milliband about an incident where a British soldier had been killed (in Afghanistan I think). Marshall is smart, he’s now an independent ‘expert’ & writer on foreign affairs, but the detail of his question to Milliband wasn’t exactly correct. Milliband responded, he was fully aware of his brief & had the detail of the case down to exactly where the incident happened.

He didn’t obviously correct Marshall but responded with a full answer. Marshall immediately thanked him for the way he put him right. Good man is D Milliband & the Blair years in totality were not as bad as some paint.
 
….decent, intellectual. Labour needs brains, the sooner the likes of him & Andy Burnham gets back the better it will be. i worked throughout the best days of Blair & if the country’s public services can return to that standard then it’ll be in a far better place than now.

i remember Sky’s Tim Marshall interviewing David Milliband about an incident where a British soldier had been killed (in Afghanistan I think). Marshall is smart, he’s now an independent ‘expert’ & writer on foreign affairs, but the detail of his question to Milliband wasn’t exactly correct. Milliband responded, he was fully aware of his brief & had the detail of the case down to exactly where the incident happened.

He didn’t obviously correct Marshall but responded with a full answer. Marshall immediately thanked him for the way he put him right. Good man is D Milliband & the Blair years in totality were not as bad as some paint.
You'd think the fact that the Blair years were the only time we've had a Labour government in the last 40 odd years would tell people that going all Michael Foot isn't really likely to win an election.
 
Good politics and of course actually listening to said speech Starmer wants everyone on good pay and good conditions regardless of country of origin. Finally a 21st Britain .
This is quite possibly the first time I've heard Starmer use his platform to actually make a substantive statement on policy. And it's one I can fully agree with and support.

What a refreshing change from the endless torrent of negative vitriol that usually belches forth from the Labour front benches. Might this signal a parting of ways with the decade-old tired party line of "Just berate the Tories and remind everyone WE aren't Tories" and an acknowledgement that debating policy is more productive in swaying voters?

Excellent timing too. A first shot fired in the GE campaign, I suspect.
 
This is quite possibly the first time I've heard Starmer use his platform to actually make a substantive statement on policy. And it's one I can fully agree with and support.

What a refreshing change from the endless torrent of negative vitriol that usually belches forth from the Labour front benches. Might this signal a parting of ways with the decade-old tired party line of "Just berate the Tories and remind everyone WE aren't Tories" and an acknowledgement that debating policy is more productive in swaying voters?

Excellent timing too. A first shot fired in the GE campaign, I suspect.
Absolutely.
Starmer was always gonna time things. No point talking specific policy 3-4 years out from an election.
The time is spot on now to say to people he wants better pay and conditions. Got a feeling he will just start roping people in slowly.
 
You'd think the fact that the Blair years were the only time we've had a Labour government in the last 40 odd years would tell people that going all Michael Foot isn't really likely to win an election.

….spot on, adding that Blair was re-elected. Its a huge mistake if Labour don’t learn from Blair making them electable & I suspect that’s what Starmer is doing.

Blair’s government ran its course, it’s what tends to happen in a Democracy but public services were never better during my 41 years working in public sector.
 
Absolutely.
Starmer was always gonna time things. No point talking specific policy 3-4 years out from an election.
The time is spot on now to say to people he wants better pay and conditions. Got a feeling he will just start roping people in slowly.
Absolutely. Coordinating this announcement to issue it in the midst of a rash of union strikes, in the run-up to Christmas with the media full of reports of record numbers using foodbanks - it's pretty much perfect from a Labour campaign team point of view.
 
….spot on, adding that Blair was re-elected. Its a huge mistake if Labour don’t learn from Blair making them electable & I suspect that’s what Starmer is doing.

Blair’s government ran its course, it’s what tends to happen in a Democracy but public services were never better during my 41 years working in public sector.
Given the alternatives in those 40 years its not a high bar, but I certainly take your point. In my area of Merseyside every single school, bust stop, train station and park had various forms of investment and modernisation. Outside, of the blair/brown years they've been left to starve.
 
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