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[zzr45]

The UK is every bit as corrupt as any of the Southern European Countries (if not more).Just better camouflaged.

Hahaha no.

 

[tsubaki]

Hahaha no.

It is a different form of corruption, but it is at least as big as over there.

Look at what happened to Osita Mba for instance, or the cops who convicted James Ibori, or the Jes Staley thing. Or this from Private Eye a few years ago.

 

[zzr45]

It is a different form of corruption, but it is at least as big as over there.

Look at what happened to Osita Mba for instance, or the cops who convicted James Ibori, or the Jes Staley thing. Or this from Private Eye a few years ago.

lol Just no. No.
No.
No.
Still no.
Forever no
I mean seriously?
No.

 

[tsubaki]

lol Just no. No.
No.
No.
Still no.
Forever no
I mean seriously?
No.

Or you could read about Dave Hartnett then, another one of those civil servants who kept "making mistakes".

 

[zzr45]

Or you could read about Dave Hartnett then, another one of those civil servants who kept "making mistakes".

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make anymore? Half the examples you gave were during the previous Labour government. Labour welcomes corruption? Cool.

 

[tsubaki]

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make anymore? Half the examples you gave were during the previous Labour government. Labour welcomes corruption? Cool.

Sorry but did you even read the posts that said this was something that had happened under successive Governments?

 

[Number_25]

Imagine thinking @tsubaki is some sort of dogmatic Labourite, in which no fault is placed on leadership - whether historic or current.

 

[zzr45]

Sorry but did you even read the posts that said this was something that had happened under successive Governments?

https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2017

I’m not even sure where this point is going, having gone from the governments of the past have undervalued assests to suggest that the U.K. is somehow more corrupt than countries which are notoriously corrupt.

 

[tsubaki]

https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2017

I’m not even sure where this point is going, having gone from the governments of the past have undervalued assests to suggest that the U.K. is somehow more corrupt than countries which are notoriously corrupt.

I think that is because you seem determined to believe that incompetence is the reason why all governments since 1979 have had policies of public assets being sold at below their true value and also why those same governments have actively preferred to spend billions on private firms rather than have the state do the same thing more cheaply.

I mean if these ministers and civil servants are so incompetent why do so many of them go on to work for the same firms they dealt with whilst in office?

As for Transparency International, perhaps what you should try to understand is where a large percentage of the money filched off Russians, Nigerians, etc ends up,

 

[zzr45]

I think that is because you seem determined to believe that incompetence is the reason why all governments since 1979 have had policies of public assets being sold at below their true value and also why those same governments have actively preferred to spend billions on private firms rather than have the state do the same thing more cheaply.

I mean if these ministers and civil servants are so incompetent why do so many of them go on to work for the same firms they dealt with whilst in office?

As for Transparency International, perhaps what you should try to understand is where a large percentage of the money filched off Russians, Nigerians, etc ends up,

But that can easily be countered in that you seem to believe that governments have sold off assests cheap because they are all on the take. One of the situations is closer to reality than the other. I’ll leave it there because it’s getting pretty tedious.

 

[davids]

Hahaha no.

Universal Credit.... where's the Arteta money Bill.Feel free to add your own examples.

 

[Socrates]

 

[Bruce Wayne]

To be fair, I think I'm right in saying that in the past 50 years (or something like that), there have only been a handful of years where the government has actually run a budget surplus. It also seems a bit disingenuous to fob things off on the financial crisis (which is true), but ignore things like the dot com boom for any boosts to public finances, especially as this coincided with a huge windfall from selling 3G licenses. That wasn't really Labour's doing it was fortune of circumstance, just as being there when the financial crash happened was bad luck.

 

[tsubaki]

One of the better pro-Corbyn twitter threads this:

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The blunders seem to continue from Labour. The coat thing on Sunday is in the grand scheme of things petty, but it's such an easy and obvious own goal from him that it's bewildering either he or anyone advising him didn't think it sensible to look a little bit smarter for such a public appearance. Now you've got Keir Starmer directly contradicting his comment in Der Speigel by saying that Brexit can very much be stopped.