The Johnny 'Colossus' Heitinga Appreciation Thread

Keep or get rid?

  • Keep

    Votes: 24 19.8%
  • Get rid

    Votes: 97 80.2%

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Ive said before in previous posts that you cant have a team of backslappers and loyal dogs to get places. Big players with big talents generally have egos that need man management.

Moyes has even admitted hes a tough talkin manager and hes had to tone it down. But it could still be a problem.

Weve seen fellaini and pienaar already snappin back and orders from moyes, now rumours of heitinga doin a runner.

If we spent lots of money and brought world class talent in, hed need to manage them well personally. From what it looks like, it seems not to be happenin with our foreign world cup stars and international youth.

Johnny could be fragile after the world cup...and it hasnt been addressed by the management. He clearly looks nothin like his former self from what ive seen...not tacklin, not sharp, not workin hard, he seems demotivated.

Its down to moyes to help him. And if he is moody and moyes cant handle it...god help him if he had chelseas team for eg

Ah bless, wrap him up in cotton wool. It'll be alright Johnny. Mummy's here.

He's meant to be our semi psychotic defensive destroyer. Not some ginned up reality tv tart crying in the big brother house.

You'd think little Johnny got lost in the department store and he's all alone and afraid in the big bad world. Must be that nasty Mr Moyes.
 

Ah bless, wrap him up in cotton wool. It'll be alright Johnny. Mummy's here.

He's meant to be our semi psychotic defensive destroyer. Not some ginned up reality tv tart crying in the big brother house.

You'd think little Johnny got lost in the department store and he's all alone and afraid in the big bad world. Must be that nasty Mr Moyes.

Fair enough mate...but like I've said in a previous post - that game was the biggest game of his career and he got sent off in it. Even John "Ard as nails" Terry blubbed like a 3 year old after the champions league final with United. It happens. It effects players.

Fundamentally its up to the manager to bring them back and motivate them.

Direct question, but do you think that Moyes would be able to manage a team full of Drogba's, Anelka's, Ben Arfa's, Robinho's etc for eg? Honestly? I dont. I think if there's an ego bigger than his, it'll end in tears. But its those calibre of players you want at the club to win trophies.

Not saying Heitinga has a massive ego...but he's one of the biggest earners, clearly sees himself playing at a higher level (because he's capable) and he's just been a world cup final but cant play centre half ahead of Distin....That manager should be managing the player.
 
pathetic post. Hanging the manager out to dry on an unconfirmed rumour. And even if its true as TB says, why would that make Moyes culpable.

Fans like you really do deserve to see Moyes go.

See above post.

Moyes is the manager. He should be able to man-manage and keep everyone sweet.

But then again 9 out of 10 Evertonians would say "there's the door"....which is counter productive in my eyes
 

From the spanish popcorn thread in worldfootball :

Finally, the obvious reason for Johnny Heitinga's failure to settle down in your side is the ineptitude of the management, failing to build a defence around one of Europe's best defenders. Fifty caps for Holland tells it's own story!

ToffeeDan predciting Heitingas Everton future with unnerving accuracy. He just forgot to add "whilst being behind Sylvain Distin in the pecking order".
 
Heitinga Move?

The original source is the Daily Fail. This is from goal.com. You have been warned to not believe this, but here it is anyway:


Report: Wolfsburg Set Sights On Everton Defender John Heitinga
Wolfsburg are interested in signing Everton defender John Heitinga.

By Rick D'Andrea
Oct 5, 2010 9:25:00 PM

Wolfsburg is interested in signing Everton defender John Heitinga during the January transfer window.

The Wolves tried to capture the the 26-year-old Holland international during the final hours of the summer transfer window, but were unable to.

The side is expected to try to sign the player again once the transfer window reopens in January, according to the Daily Mail.

Bayern Munich are also closely monitoring the defender.

Wolfsburg currently trail league-leaders Mainz 05 by 11 points after seven matches.
 
The original source is the Daily Fail. This is from goal.com. You have been warned to not believe this, but here it is anyway:


Report: Wolfsburg Set Sights On Everton Defender John Heitinga
Wolfsburg are interested in signing Everton defender John Heitinga.

By Rick D'Andrea
Oct 5, 2010 9:25:00 PM

Wolfsburg is interested in signing Everton defender John Heitinga during the January transfer window.

The Wolves tried to capture the the 26-year-old Holland international during the final hours of the summer transfer window, but were unable to.

The side is expected to try to sign the player again once the transfer window reopens in January, according to the Daily Mail.

Bayern Munich are also closely monitoring the defender.

Wolfsburg currently trail league-leaders Mainz 05 by 11 points after seven matches.

This the same Wolfsburg with Davie's #1 love , Dzecko ???

Hmmm,...

Strokes chin ,..

It COULD be on , but I've heard nisch as yet . Not imossible , though .
 

Wed sell him and keep distin?
Id lose all faith in the club. Hes a world cup finalist ffs!

It's not as so he got Holland there himself...He also did get sent off...All this said though..Losing Heitinga would be a big blow...How distin is first choice centerback is beyond me...But we have kept two consecutive clean sheets..so Moyes must be seeing something in training that we don't , regarding Heitinga..
 

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