The Great Man : MOYES

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From tomorrows Independent.

Saturday, 1 March 2008


When David Moyes and Joe Jordan were old players of teams like Celtic and Manchester United in the service of Bristol City they shared digs and would often talk the night away. The subject was, relentlessly, football and if some of their passionate theories have been modified, it has not been by much.


Occasionally, Jordan attempted to switch the subject. Perhaps he wanted to recommend a fine Italian wine from his time with Milan and Verona. Maybe he had seen an astounding film. But you could try that only so many times as the sun crept over the Avon. Invariably, Moyes would turn it back to the game that dominated his life.

"The thing with Moysey," Jordan was recalling yesterday, "was that while he was obsessive about the football – and so ambitious he had coaching badges in his early twenties – he had something that I've found always makes potentially great football men stand out.

"He had a love of the game that went beyond his own ideas about how he might progress as a coach or a manager. He wanted to know everything. I've known some great football men like Jock Stein and Dave Sexton and they were like that.

"There was something we did always agree on. It was that timing was everything if you wanted to make your way. Sometimes you had to fight to give yourself time. I really think that's what Moysey has done at Everton. He is not up there by any chance."

It means that when Moyes' Everton play the Portsmouth team coached by Jordan at Goodison Park tomorrow there will be few hiding places for anything less than the most thorough of professional commitment. If it should also happen that Everton win – and deepen the possibility that for the second time in four years they will finish ahead of their fierce and much heavier spending rivals Liverpool – we could also be talking about a lot more than the increasingly vitriolic bragging rights of Merseyside. We might just be recognising in Moyes, at 44, the best football manager seen around Liverpool since the days of Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley.

This may seem like a harsh jibe at Rafael Benitez, who does happen to hold a two-goal lead over the masters of Italian football, Internazionale, but when resources are compared, when the spending patterns of recent years are put against each other, Moyes is once again on the verge of a stunning achievement.

Certainly in a week which has seen even more fragmentation of old values at Liverpool before the tricky engagement at Bolton tomorrow, when Steven Gerrard felt obliged to send up fresh signals that he is close to despair about the development of the team he was close to abandoning for the Kings Road a few years ago, when civil war erupted between the American owners, Moyes has looked like a man closing in on a new and more powerful niche in the game in which economic forces say he should really be scuffling for not a lot more than survival. The ledgers of Liverpool and Everton tell an extraordinary story.

Benitez has spent £146m in less than four years, with £70m recovered, with his predecessor Gérard Houllier getting through £119m, against sales of approximately £57m in roughly the same period. In six years Moyes has spent £79.1m and recovered £51.9m or, put another way, turned relegation candidates into increasingly significant players at the sharper end of the Premier League at an annual cost of something less than £5m a year.

Admittedly the figures were spectacularly enhanced by the sale of Wayne Rooney, but then few managers could have guided the then turbulently emerging genius to the marketplace quite so skilfully.

Moyes' old team-mate Jordan notes the change that has come about with the signings of such as Phil Neville, Joleon Lescott, Mikel Arteta and Yakubu – and the development of promising young players like James Vaughan and Victor Anichebe. "Moysey has stayed the course and no one can say that he hasn't worked hard and cleverly to get where he is now. First he made a team and now, when we are talking about serious competition, of really believing that soon you can compete with the top teams, he has a squad.

"What he has done, beyond any question, is make himself a top manager."

Back in the digs that was more a dream than a raging possibility. Though he had played for Celtic and competed in Europe, Moyes had become an inhabitant of football's nether regions; he might have been labouring with more hope than certainty. But that didn't matter so much so long as he could learn a little bit more about the game, immerse himself in it ever more deeply. Bill Shankly was like that as he scoured the outposts of football in Carlisle and Grimsby and Workington.

David Moyes, it is ever more clear, is a man of the future but then he would also have been recognised as something else by the old messiah who once operated across the park.

Shankly would have seen a throwback to the roots of a game in which the fundamentals of choosing winners and losers is unlikely to ever change.

What a fukkin great piece, Great write Sir.
 
I have a proud tear in my eye. Our little ginger manager is growing up. He has become a beacon of light on what were dark times. He has instilled belief into a bunch of players and created a reborn club. He is a good lad.
 

to my great shame, I was one of those many thousands who shouted for Moysey to be removed forthwith after the loss to Spurs last season. There are still times when I do wonder about his substitutions, or at least the timings of them but I am absolutely 100% behind him. He's the manager and he knows what he's doing. We are very fortunate to have him at the helm.
Go Moysey!
 
to my great shame, I was one of those many thousands who shouted for Moysey to be removed forthwith after the loss to Spurs last season. There are still times when I do wonder about his substitutions, or at least the timings of them but I am absolutely 100% behind him. He's the manager and he knows what he's doing. We are very fortunate to have him at the helm.
Go Moysey!

i agreed with everything in that post because i felt exactly the same but for the first part of your post,i did'nt feel ashamed when i gave my opinion to moyes that day,i have had to eat slice of humble pie in the process though,wether i warm to moyes remains to be seen,winning the uefa up will sway my feelings big time,after all football is all about winning trophies,and its been a long time since we had that feeling..moyes has to deliver to be classd as a great man
 
to my great shame, I was one of those many thousands who shouted for Moysey to be removed forthwith after the loss to Spurs last season. There are still times when I do wonder about his substitutions, or at least the timings of them but I am absolutely 100% behind him. He's the manager and he knows what he's doing. We are very fortunate to have him at the helm.
Go Moysey!


To be honest hon, outside of his lucky escape from relegation I have always been a strong backer of the ginger ninja. (this is not a brag/boast). I can fully understand why people questioned him at first, and people like yourself that openly admit their initial fears (and the fact that they have been changed) is a testament to the whole club. Moyes is the prime example of the way he is culturing this club.
He openly admits that he has been learning everyday since he took over, and I like the way he telegraphs that attitude. Mikel, Skippy, joleon, Ossie, maybe even Hibbert, manny, maybe even Timmy"drink, arse"howard, have all had to learn what being a full time prem player is all about. Moyes has lead by example and always said that he is in school every day and he will never stop learning his trade. He has instilled that belief in our players and they are more than willing to be open minded and never stop learning. Even P.Neville has admitted he is learning the game all over again. He no longer expects decisions(as he did previous with manure), he believes that you make your own destiny and never rely on luck. This attitude and work rate will be Moyes's legacy. If he keeps it up he will surpass the both Caterrick and Kendall dynasties.

In a nutshell. he has constantly stepped up to the mark when he has to, and learnt from his mistakes(the [Poor language removed] up against spurs last season was a hard lesson for him), and is honest to admit when he screws up. But he only makes the same mistake once. Once again, the team have been infected with this honest attitude. This man has no ceiling to his potential.

We are lucky to have a gem like this. He has unearthed a treasure trove of talent and I believe can step up a few more gears in the years to come.

Basically, Bluelass. I hear you and I totally back you.
 

Spot on Gandalf.

I blindly follow all Everton managers (with the exception of Mr Walker who I despised with such passion) and tend to trust in everything they do.

That said, I understood peoples worries during the more troubling times.

There can't be many dissenting voices left around Goodison, though I'm sure there will always be a few.

I agree with Mr Dalf, the guy could be our greatest ever.

Could be.
 
Spot on Gandalf.

I blindly follow all Everton managers (with the exception of Mr Walker who I despised with such passion) and tend to trust in everything they do.

That said, I understood peoples worries during the more troubling times.

There can't be many dissenting voices left around Goodison, though I'm sure there will always be a few.

I agree with Mr Dalf, the guy could be our greatest ever.

Could be.

I am the younger, clean shaven one. teehee
 
I have to raise my glass yo you for a cracking and true reflection of our great manager .Well put together fair play to you.
 
proud to be an Evertonian

Hi just want to say i have been an everton fan since the days of martin dobson,bob latchford my hero and good old mike lyons.I live in ireland so dont get the chance to see my heroes playing just sky tv and radio .Having said that back in the seventies radio was my only contact very little tv coverage of the blues.I remember hangin on to every word reception poor when we lost to villa in the third replay robbed yet again,against west ham in the semi final of the fa cup in the early eighties robbed again late winner by lampard senior yes those were the days.Havin said all that everton are in my heart and as there are not many blues where i come from makes them all the more special.I have had and to this day have great memories so come on you blues who are lucky enough to live beside goodison sing your hearts out and let the rest of the world know how special it is to be an Evertonian .ITS A GRAND OLD TEAM TO PLAY FOR ITS A GRAND OLD TEAM TO SUPPORT.
 

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