The Governator

[heatmeiser]

i've had to cut and paste as the fecking connection went for a burton.

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Terminator II.

so, the bad cyborg that was crushed in a compactor beyond recognition at the end of the first film (1984), makes a Lazarus type comeback in the second, exactly the same, and is tweaked to become a GOOD terminator? :blink:

stroll on.

First it's hunting down Sarah Connor intent on killing her, the next it's doing everything in it's power to protect her.

Bloody nonsense that is.


and furthermore, that horrible whiny kid in the second, just makes me want to punch the screen.

I haven't actually seen the third yet, why they waited twelve years to do the third installment I don't know.


It's like the 3rd and 4th Die Hard movies, too much of a gap in between.

The fact that an almost indestructable cyborg has been sent back in time to assassinate the unborn leader/teenage version of an organisation that will end up fighting a resistance war against computers is fine, that a fancy new cyborg made from mimetic polyalloy that can change into any non-complex machinery is fine; but the fact that they found an intact arm and a damaged cpu chip, reverse engineered it then re-programmed - what is essentially a computer after all - it to follow different orders is hard to swallow?

Fair enough with the whiny kid though. It took so long to film that he aged so much (visably if you can be bothered to check) that his voice broke mid-shoot and they had to synthetically pitch it to the same level.

 

[Upper Sturry Sherbets]

Well I started the thread at 4:00am last night and I'm here again at almost the same time, tried earlier to reply, but the least said, the better..

Just wanted to say I watched it again tonight (Predator)

I don't understand fully how an alien life form can be send to earth just to swing through trees, blend into the jungle with camouflage, and fire at people with fancy lazers and ray guns, I mean what's the point.

and then there's this bit near the end when Schwarzenegger's being chased by the Predator, goes over a 300ft waterfall, goes down river, pulls himself up onto a mudbank, and lo and behold, the fecking things coming out the water right behind him.

and this was the same director who did Die Hard 1 and 3.

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I have to say, for me there's only one piece of reel that is for me Schwarzenegger in the 80s and its the end bit of Commando,

anybody who has not seen this movie, what are you playing at.


'Schwarzenegger gives Freddie Mercury a belting'

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj1L94hM8eY[/media]

 

[Dylan]

Sorry, Commando was the worst film he did in that time-frame. And that last fight scene is laughable, poor editing and the facial expressions are hilarious.. A podgy fat Freddy Mercury look-a-like giving this cut, muscular-yet-lean-enough-to-be-agile Arnie a run for his money?? Even more fantasy than aliens picking off Spec Ops teams one-by-one.

 

[heatmeiser]

Well I started the thread at 4:00am last night and I'm here again at almost the same time, tried earlier to reply, but the least said, the better..

Just wanted to say I watched it again tonight (Predator)

I don't understand fully how an alien life form can be send to earth just to swing through trees, blend into the jungle with camouflage, and fire at people with fancy lazers and ray guns, I mean what's the point.

and then there's this bit near the end when Schwarzenegger's being chased by the Predator, goes over a 300ft waterfall, goes down river, pulls himself up onto a mudbank, and lo and behold, the fecking things coming out the water right behind him.

and this was the same director who did Die Hard 1 and 3.

.........

I have to say, for me there's only one piece of reel that is for me Schwarzenegger in the 80s and its the end bit of Commando,

anybody who has not seen this movie, what are you playing at.


'Schwarzenegger gives Freddie Mercury a belting'

YouTube - Commando: Last Fight

While it may not be on the level of Goethe or Heidegger for philosophical thought - the film makes it pretty obvious that the predator creature is there purely for sport. To prove itself against another species. Made obvious in the scene (apart from where he's seen polishing his skull trophies) where Billy the native american chap confronts it on the bridge and the creature puts his gun away and goes all hand to hand combat on him.

And maybe the thing also goes over the waterfall, down the river and into the mudbank...

Commando is at least better than Raw Deal, that was utter gash.

An honourable mention for Red Heat too. If not for anything else than all the nudey women in the sauna at the beginning.

 

[Dylan]

While it may not be on the level of Goethe or Heidegger for philosophical thought - the film makes it pretty obvious that the predator creature is there purely for sport. To prove itself against another species. Made obvious in the scene (apart from where he's seen polishing his skull trophies) where Billy the native american chap confronts it on the bridge and the creature puts his gun away and goes all hand to hand combat on him.

And maybe the thing also goes over the waterfall, down the river and into the mudbank...

Commando is at least better than Raw Deal, that was utter gash.

An honourable mention for Red Heat too. If not for anything else than all the nudey women in the sauna at the beginning.

True on both counts. Raw Deal was awful. So bad I had erased it from my mind.

Red Heat was actually enjoyable, IMO. The woodenness of Arnie's "acting" played it perfectly. Add in boobs and James Belushi being James Belushi and it all works!!

 

[Muggins]

I submit my five favorite Schwarzenegger pictures, but may well change my mind at some point, but I'm sticking with these.

1. Predator (1987)

2. End of Days (1999)

3. Total Recall (1990)

4. Commando (1985)

5. The Running Man (1987)


that's enough for one night, I'LL BE BACK.

1. Last Action Hero - classic - Arnie playing himself as himself in an action movie that is meant to be silly.

2. The Running man - For the last scene.

3. Predator - Shows he is harder than the other hard guys in his squad.

4. Terminator 1 & 2. - For being a robot.

5. Twins - For the look on his face throughout the entire film.

 

[pfim]

The Running Man was the best imo. Followed by Total Recall.

I've always liked True Lies as well, although maybe more for the comedic aspect with Tom Arnold.

 

[Upper Sturry Sherbets]

Sorry, Commando was the worst film he did in that time-frame. And that last fight scene is laughable, poor editing and the facial expressions are hilarious.. A podgy fat Freddy Mercury look-a-like giving this cut, muscular-yet-lean-enough-to-be-agile Arnie a run for his money?? Even more fantasy than aliens picking off Spec Ops teams one-by-one.

I'm a firm believer that Commando was produced for the sole intention of humor, it was not meant to be taken seriously.

'what did you do with sully' , 'I let him go'

'I eat green berets for breakfast and right now I'm very hungry'

'F.ck you asshole', no, 'F.ck YOU asshole', with an austrian drawl.

'Chenny!', which was one of the few words of Matrixs vocabulary.

that Bennett was just class, 'slitting a little girls throat is like cutting warm butter'

'put the knife away and shut your mouth'


Guy hangs over cliff by one arm and you can clearly see the lead supporting him.

when they go into the shopping mall, it's daylight, they come out five minutes later and it's pitch black outside.

Of course it's nonsense, if you realize that when you sit down you'll enjoy it more. Still a hoot no matter what anyone thinks.

and the running man, dare i say, it was worse, if that's possible, but it was Schwarzenegger that made it work.