Current Affairs The General Election

Voting Intentions

  • Labour

    Votes: 209 61.1%
  • Tories

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 20 5.8%
  • Brexit Gubbins

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Change UK, if that's their current moniker

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • DUP

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 2.6%
  • Alliance

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Some fringe party with a catchy name

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • A plague on all your houses

    Votes: 32 9.4%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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Can't say I am surprised, Corbyn and his hound dogs are tossers. Lost so many people who are diehards, hopefully Momentum get lost now and we get the Labour party back.

That's my hope - that the deluded Corbyn activists realise that they did the Tories more favours than the most ardent Tory campaigner could ever have done.

My fear is there is simply too many ideologists that have infiltrated the Labour rank and file to enable an electoral recovery. The electoral system also doesn't allow for a splinter party to do well, as seen by Change UK (albeit that was botched totally by some very egotistical and talentless MPs.)

I think a more realistic situation is that perhaps Momentum allow Keir Starmer to get in as leader as he's played a cute political game by being on the surface on side with Corbyn's nonsense but has retained an aura of being someone who is intelligent and has common sense. That's possible, but we could easily see the useless Thornberry or Long-Bailey in instead.
 
You have to ask WHY places like that are going from Labour to Conservative, that’s the pertinent point.

If any staunch labour areas are switching then you know the party has really messed up.
Why?
1. The union movement not recovering and recapturing the ground after the Thatcher years
2. The legacy of Tony Blair - turned LP into a party representing the establishment elite; destroyed what the party stood for.
3a Postermodernist ideology pervasive in school and universities
3b Identity politics and the ascendency of individual rights over the power of the people to stand up to the establishment
3c the advent of the 'snowflake' generation and the lashback by older voters
4. Austerity policies leading to disillusionment and the rise of populist and divisive politics
5. 3+4 Fragmentation of the traditional left with the rise of the 'snowflake' mentality which lead many to the turn away from the left and identify with problems like immigration and the EU, turning away from siding with humanity and blaming it on the 'other'.
6. The bias, agenda setting of the media elite (see Manufacturing consent - Noam Chomsky)

Any thing I missed?
 
That's my hope - that the deluded Corbyn activists realise that they did the Tories more favours than the most ardent Tory campaigner could ever have done.

My fear is there is simply too many ideologists that have infiltrated the Labour rank and file to enable an electoral recovery. The electoral system also doesn't allow for a splinter party to do well, as seen by Change UK (albeit that was botched totally by some very egotistical and talentless MPs.)

I think a more realistic situation is that perhaps Momentum allow Keir Starmer to get in as leader as he's played a cute political game by being on the surface on side with Corbyn's nonsense but has retained an aura of being someone who is intelligent and has common sense. That's possible, but we could easily see the useless Thornberry or Long-Bailey in instead.

From the early reactions, it's going the opposite way.

Not their fault. Media all against Corbyn. Everyone's thick. Everyone's racist. Old people need to die.
 
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