Current Affairs The General Election

Voting Intentions

  • Labour

    Votes: 209 61.1%
  • Tories

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 20 5.8%
  • Brexit Gubbins

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Change UK, if that's their current moniker

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • DUP

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 2.6%
  • Alliance

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Some fringe party with a catchy name

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • A plague on all your houses

    Votes: 32 9.4%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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I will never join any political party. I like to be a free spirit lol

But the country is better off when we have a sensible centre left option. I dont believe we did this election.
Neither party has a strong, respectable and universally luked leader and as such both have strayed away from the centre ground with their pledges and policies.

However, peculiarly I think the Conservatives lack of too many concrete pledges (Brexit, police, NHS, immigration errr...) meant they swayed less from the centre...

... or at least in the eyes of many, so people have went for what is perceived as a safer voter - devil you know.
 
New world, for the people, yooof gathering, renationalising Jezza Corbs just got battered by this guy...

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There's lots of long term problems for Labour.

One is aware of them. You had hoped that a youthful vote, and increased turnout would have offset it.

It looks as it it hasn't.

Lots of things to say. To me Corbyn has had a radical manifesto, but it hasn't been matched with a radical rhetoric for most of the time. I think people struggled to believe it. It's hard to be insurgent one minute and quite cautious the next.

Take it from someone who didn't want a Tory win but definitely didn't want a Corbyn win.

It isn't just the leader. It's the policies too. "NATIONALISE EVERYTHING!" has zero appeal; nationalise some things as part of a moderate, evolutionary, fully costed centre-left manifesto would have massive appeal.

The answer isn't to find a 'radical' leader - the answer is to appeal to people; pragmatism over ideology. Play the game that exists, not the one you wish existed.

Johnson plowing hard right was an opportunity for Labour to appeal to normal people horrified by it. Instead, they went harder in the opposite direction. In a country that is centre-right and has no socialist history whatsoever. Suicidal.
 
There's lots of long term problems for Labour.

One is aware of them. You had hoped that a youthful vote, and increased turnout would have offset it.

It looks as it it hasn't.

Lots of things to say. To me Corbyn has had a radical manifesto, but it hasn't been matched with a radical rhetoric for most of the time. I think people struggled to believe it. It's hard to be insurgent one minute and quite cautious the next.

The youth vote was needed in working class northern towns. It was never there. It only exists in the cities that are usually labour anyway.
 
I have to laugh at Ed Balls ripping into the Labour Party on ITV, this clown lost his actual seat in 2015. The idea we get the likes of him back in charge and sweep aside the Tories is ridiculous.
 
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