Current Affairs The General Election

Voting Intentions

  • Labour

    Votes: 209 61.1%
  • Tories

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 20 5.8%
  • Brexit Gubbins

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Change UK, if that's their current moniker

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • DUP

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 2.6%
  • Alliance

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Some fringe party with a catchy name

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • A plague on all your houses

    Votes: 32 9.4%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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Hahaha Corbyn has promised to buy houses for the homeless now. Just outright give them to them I assume.

The insanity begins.
 
When your economic strategy is rob the rich to feed the poor, what happens when there's no more rich to rob because they've left the country?

It's student union politics again. Ridiculously simplistic.

"On our first day in office, we will immediately buy all the properties necessary to house the rough sleepers."
 
When your economic strategy is rob the rich to feed the poor, what happens when there's no more rich to rob because they've left the country?

It's student union politics again. Ridiculously simplistic.
Yet to see any study that shows the rich run away when taxes rise, which is all we're talking about here. Most billionaires assets are already in tax havens like the Cayman Islands as the panama papers shown so where exactly is the money going if its already not in this country and being taxed fairly?

And if there was a hint of the rich running away there is capital controls which are perfectly normal and something Iceland introduced post recession to stop bankers and billionaires taking their money out of the country so that Iceland could tax it and grow out of the recession (which they did)
 
When your economic strategy is rob the rich to feed the poor, what happens when there's no more rich to rob because they've left the country?

It's student union politics again. Ridiculously simplistic.

yeah..globalism does kind of mess that up, even tho it does seem unnessecary for anyone to have that much money, that barnett is still annoying tho
 
Yet to see any study that shows the rich run away when taxes rise, which is all we're talking about here. Most billionaires assets are already in tax havens like the Cayman Islands as the panama papers shown so where exactly is the money going if its already not in this country and being taxed fairly?

And if there was a hint of the rich running away there is capital controls which are perfectly normal and something Iceland introduced post recession to stop bankers and billionaires taking their money out of the country so that Iceland could tax it and grow out of the recession (which they did)

Right, so the super rich will just sit here and be content to be robbed.

How about those millionaires with aspirations to perform well, increase their wealth. Why would they bother doing it here if they're punished for doing so?

And how long before the Corbyn claw comes for middle-class well performing businesses to subsidise falling treasury stocks by impaling them with Corporation Tax rises?

It's foolish. Utterly, incredible irresponsible. Once more, ideology over common sense, and why he is so dangerous. By trying to 'help the poor', he'd murder this country.
 
It's the kind of making it up on the hoof kind of thing you'd imagine Trump saying. Like he was carried away with all of the cult cheering "we're on your side Jezza" and couldn't help himself.

He did it in 2017 too but to be fair I don't think he ever said anything quite as daft as that. And that's including his £500bn "SPEND EVERYTHING" pledge in 2016.

Corbyn would be worse for the UK than Brexit, and I don't say that lightly.
 


One interview that sums up exactly why Labour are insane and terrify the ordinary person.

They make out like it's a crime to have ambition. Everyone should be the same.


I'd like to think I have as much ambition and work ethic as the next bloke but I am not terrified by Labour or anything in that interview. What terrifies me is that a public broadcaster can misrepresent the point being made, in a bizarre effort to discuss an important wider issue.

At no point did he say he didn't wand billionaires. His point was that we needed to have a fairer country, and a state that saw it's objectives to raise the living standards of the majority of people who have got poorer, not aim to make people who already have a billion pounds more money.

The tone from Barnett needs massively adjusting too. She needs a major attitude adjustment. Her daddy imprisoned, co-erced, controlled women to be raped, multiple times a day, day after day to generate an enormous profit, for which he paid for his darling precocious daughter to go to a school the majority of people could only dream of being able to attend. Maybe she needs to get a bit more self righteous on that, and remember the struggles ordinary women have gone through to get herself into her position of privilege. If she showed half as much compassion towards ordinary people, as she does to billionaires being told they have to contribute fairly she may be half way there to be being a semi-decent public journalist.

As a final point, she says they contribute 27% of tax revenues, yet they earn 72% of assets/wages. So by that token, they are paying a mere fraction of what they are due to pay. She is aware of this, because in part of daddy's expensive education bought for her (paid for by the profits of multiple rape of women). She chooses to not mention it. It's appalling journalism.

We should also note, that if you spent 10k a day it would take you 30 years to become a billionaire. The scale of it, when we have children who are malnourished does seem rather a grotesque reflection of society's problems. Especially when we have taken from the mouths of those children starving to give to the billionaires. Maybe we ought to have a temporary ban on billionaires until, say child poverty is eradicated?

Mouthpieces like Barnett will never have that though, with her faux outrage.
 
Morgan Stanley are inevitably going to attract suspicion. I'm not sure Tim Harford has any political allegiances though, and his critique of the landlord/right to buy policy seems pretty logical to me.

Yes this was why I said "most". You have employers trade organisations there and the economist which is the journal of employers really.

Morgan Stanley, crashed the economy with their greed, then blamed ordinary people and made them pay, and now when we can't afford to pay anymore as hundreds of thousands are dying are getting a but of a hump that their huge growth in revenues may have to be slowed a little. You'll have to forgive me while you pass me the bucket for my sympathy for their concern.
 
I'd like to think I have as much ambition and work ethic as the next bloke but I am not terrified by Labour or anything in that interview. What terrifies me is that a public broadcaster can misrepresent the point being made, in a bizarre effort to discuss an important wider issue.

At no point did he say he didn't wand billionaires. His point was that we needed to have a fairer country, and a state that saw it's objectives to raise the living standards of the majority of people who have got poorer, not aim to make people who already have a billion pounds more money.

The tone from Barnett needs massively adjusting too. She needs a major attitude adjustment. Her daddy imprisoned, co-erced, controlled women to be raped, multiple times a day, day after day to generate an enormous profit, for which he paid for his darling precocious daughter to go to a school the majority of people could only dream of being able to attend. Maybe she needs to get a bit more self righteous on that, and remember the struggles ordinary women have gone through to get herself into her position of privilege. If she showed half as much compassion towards ordinary people, as she does to billionaires being told they have to contribute fairly she may be half way there to be being a semi-decent public journalist.

As a final point, she says they contribute 27% of tax revenues, yet they earn 72% of assets/wages. So by that token, they are paying a mere fraction of what they are due to pay. She is aware of this, because in part of daddy's expensive education bought for her (paid for by the profits of multiple rape of women). She chooses to not mention it. It's appalling journalism.

We should also note, that if you spent 10k a day it would take you 30 years to become a billionaire. The scale of it, when we have children who are malnourished does seem rather a grotesque reflection of society's problems. Especially when we have taken from the mouths of those children starving to give to the billionaires. Maybe we ought to have a temporary ban on billionaires until, say child poverty is eradicated?

Mouthpieces like Barnett will never have that though, with her faux outrage.

Cripes. Who was her dad?
 
I'd like to think I have as much ambition and work ethic as the next bloke but I am not terrified by Labour or anything in that interview. What terrifies me is that a public broadcaster can misrepresent the point being made, in a bizarre effort to discuss an important wider issue.

At no point did he say he didn't wand billionaires. His point was that we needed to have a fairer country, and a state that saw it's objectives to raise the living standards of the majority of people who have got poorer, not aim to make people who already have a billion pounds more money.

The tone from Barnett needs massively adjusting too. She needs a major attitude adjustment. Her daddy imprisoned, co-erced, controlled women to be raped, multiple times a day, day after day to generate an enormous profit, for which he paid for his darling precocious daughter to go to a school the majority of people could only dream of being able to attend. Maybe she needs to get a bit more self righteous on that, and remember the struggles ordinary women have gone through to get herself into her position of privilege. If she showed half as much compassion towards ordinary people, as she does to billionaires being told they have to contribute fairly she may be half way there to be being a semi-decent public journalist.

As a final point, she says they contribute 27% of tax revenues, yet they earn 72% of assets/wages. So by that token, they are paying a mere fraction of what they are due to pay. She is aware of this, because in part of daddy's expensive education bought for her (paid for by the profits of multiple rape of women). She chooses to not mention it. It's appalling journalism.

We should also note, that if you spent 10k a day it would take you 30 years to become a billionaire. The scale of it, when we have children who are malnourished does seem rather a grotesque reflection of society's problems. Especially when we have taken from the mouths of those children starving to give to the billionaires. Maybe we ought to have a temporary ban on billionaires until, say child poverty is eradicated?

Mouthpieces like Barnett will never have that though, with her faux outrage.

"I don't think anyone in this country should be a billionaire" - those are the exact words that came out of his mouth.

It's the politics of envy. If you have a system where ambition is encouraged and you can make the best of what you are, then naturally there will be a "top tier" - the fact we have billionaires is representative of the ceiling you can reach; it's why we're not a third world country.

Some more taxation, cutting red tape etc. is fine, but what he's saying isn't that - when presented with the economic and practical reality of the world we live in, it's actually insane what he's saying.

Also, I couldn't give a crap who the reporter or whoever she is is - it's the words coming out of that MP which are shocking.
 
Cripes. Who was her dad?

As the article says
"The couple, married for more than 25 years, had a Rolls-Royce and a Jaguar with personal plates, went on exotic holidays and lived a `wealthy lifestyle'."

How dare people have a go at billionaires. I can fully understand why Barnett is so touchy on this subject.
 
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