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[Khalekan]

The Tories have lost the momentum. The Brexit message looks tired and desperate.

I dont see the Labour Leave north being inspired to vote for 5 more years of the Tories. Those that can be arsed will vote with Farage or stick with Labour....more will stay at home.

For months Ive said hung parliament. It will be.

Panic setting in now and no mistake

They are squealing like pigs about tactical voting and threatening to do “sommat about it in the future”.

I mean....what can you do about a person casting a tactical vote in the secrecy of the polling place?

Desperate stuff.

 

[Eggs]

He sounds 'kin thick: annoy half your potential support base.

....the tweet was a few years old, but I was more concerned it represented the type of bloke he is. As you say, a bit thick. I really don’t know how these people get through party governance.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

@peteblue has shown admirable restraint this whole time.

I thought he’d been banned from the current affairs forum. I’ve got a few things I want to talk to him about as well.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

I will be astonished if the Tories don’t get a decent majority by 20+ seats.

Labour, SNP and Lib-dems coalition would be a nightmare for Labour if that was an option.

 

[tsubaki]

I will be astonished if the Tories don’t get a decent majority by 20+ seats.

Labour, SNP and Lib-dems coalition would be a nightmare for Labour if that was an option.

Not really, in fact it’s probably better for Corbyn because it would obscure the fact that much of the PLP still don’t like him - to do much of what he wants to do, he’d need a Labour majority of 50+ which isn’t going to happen.

A minority Labour government on the other hand could get a second referendum passed, give Corbyn responsibility for negotiations and then run the ref. They could then implement it and once that’s sorted out much of the reason for LDs and SNP to back it is gone. An election would then probably follow, but with Labour having sorted out Brexit.

 

[abelard]

Not really, in fact it’s probably better for Corbyn because it would obscure the fact that much of the PLP still don’t like him - to do much of what he wants to do, he’d need a Labour majority of 50+ which isn’t going to happen.

A minority Labour government on the other hand could get a second referendum passed, give Corbyn responsibility for negotiations and then run the ref. They could then implement it and once that’s sorted out much of the reason for LDs and SNP to back it is gone. An election would then probably follow, but with Labour having sorted out Brexit.

and having his face on television with 'prime minister' underneath while doing so and the sky not immediately falling would make the smears against him seem even more ridiculous and hysterical - which is part of the reason why the lib dems refused to stop a hard/no deal Brexit when they had the chance

 

[zzr45]

I thought he’d been banned from the current affairs forum. I’ve got a few things I want to talk to him about as well.

I will speak on his behalf:
Brexit means Brexit.
It'll be alright.
Wait until you get older.
Overseen many businesses.
People in the pub disagree.

Hopefully this answers any questions you may have.

 

[zzr45]

Not really, in fact it’s probably better for Corbyn because it would obscure the fact that much of the PLP still don’t like him - to do much of what he wants to do, he’d need a Labour majority of 50+ which isn’t going to happen.

A minority Labour government on the other hand could get a second referendum passed, give Corbyn responsibility for negotiations and then run the ref. They could then implement it and once that’s sorted out much of the reason for LDs and SNP to back it is gone. An election would then probably follow, but with Labour having sorted out Brexit.

Only problem being is that the SNP will want 2nd indyref which Labour have ruled out in the short term, it's a question of which line would be broken - SNP backing Labour without the promise of indyref 2 or Labour acquiescing to it. There's a favourable way of it going, the other seems like putting the horse before the cart.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I will speak on his behalf:
Brexit means Brexit.
It'll be alright.
Wait until you get older.
Overseen many businesses.
People in the pub disagree.

Hopefully this answers any questions you may have.

‘Boris will sort it out. He loves this country. Grammar schools’

 

[Tubey]

Johnson really, really shouldn't be winning this election. He's useless.

It's depressing that he's going to win by default, solely because Labour have achieved the impossible and been just as bad as an alternative.

I'm both furious and depressed at the state of this country.

 

[tsubaki]

Only problem being is that the SNP will want 2nd indyref which Labour have ruled out in the short term, it's a question of which line would be broken - SNP backing Labour without the promise of indyref 2 or Labour acquiescing to it. There's a favourable way of it going, the other seems like putting the horse before the cart.

Perhaps, though the 2nd referendum is accepted by everyone (including the SNP iirc) as having to come first. Once that’s done they can discuss second Indy ref.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I thought he’d been banned from the current affairs forum. I’ve got a few things I want to talk to him about as well.

Not sure we can do that for an entire forum. Individual threads yes, but not whole fora.

 

[Khalekan]

Perhaps, though the 2nd referendum is accepted by everyone (including the SNP iirc) as having to come first. Once that’s done they can discuss second Indy ref.

Indeed.

Get Brexit out the way (I.e. win fresh Referendum and revoke A 50) then agree to IndyRef 2.

IMO it would fail again as the current levels of support for it are more to do with Scotland loathing Brexit and, not unnaturally, dreading the thoughts of being yoked to the English nationalists in Brexit Britain.

 

[Charro]

The Tories have lost the momentum. The Brexit message looks tired and desperate.

I dont see the Labour Leave north being inspired to vote for 5 more years of the Tories. Those that can be arsed will vote with Farage or stick with Labour....more will stay at home.

For months Ive said hung parliament. It will be.

Not so sure on that.

My missus lives up by barrow which is a labour marginal of around 2,000 seats I think. The tories have massively targeted it and the feeling is labour will lose it to them. Loads of towns up north with the same feeling

Brexit has had a major influence, but the tories are praying on towns like these that are massively uneducated. They've essentially smeared Corbyn and said he will close down the ship yards due to his views on trident and everyone seems to have bought it.

Thing is though, these people say they'll vote tory when pressed, but when it comes down to it will these people who are usually apathetic to the whole thing bother themselves to vote?

 

[coollino]

Guess the terrible weather may help labour? Don't really know the stats on postal voting