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[bluebark]

As with a lot of things, ultimately down to well intentioned but OTT rulez n regs.

Cant recall having a multitude of stickers and dates on stuff at the butcher or the greengrocer.

Is it not more to do with the increased likelihood of legal action and stock recall?

 

[roydo]

Is it not more to do with the increased likelihood of legal action and stock recall?

Thats kinda what I mean.

A few years ago, at Christmas, we ended up with 2 turkeys, one frozen, one fresh. So I phoned a food/homeless charity in Bristol offering them one of them. They were not allowed to take it, not cos they didnt need it, but because if a homeless bloke died after eating a turkey sarnie from our turkey, lawyers would take them to court.

Just realised I cannot remember what we ended up doing with it now ffs!

 

[orchard]

I’ll let you buy me some organic meat for Christmas in that case.

I don’t particularly get the time argument, it’s often just as quick to cook something as get it delivered or go out for it. I enjoy cooking though so don’t mind spending that time so that’s probably just personal preference on my part.

Haha, doesn't quite follow ! Buying a whole organic pig direct brings the price down and has better provenance than most butchers/ any supermarket mate. Just took two hams out of the brine/marinade today, i'll get them in the smoker tomorrow/Friday. Organic turkey's steep like.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I’ll let you buy me some organic meat for Christmas in that case.

I don’t particularly get the time argument, it’s often just as quick to cook something as get it delivered or go out for it. I enjoy cooking though so don’t mind spending that time so that’s probably just personal preference on my part.

From a time management perspective, getting food delivered takes me about 5 minutes whereas making food can take me anywhere up to 90 minutes (obviously not all the time). But, ordinarily I could be doing many other things while waiting for food, than cooking it myself.

 

[roydo]

From a time management perspective, getting food delivered takes me about 5 minutes whereas making food can take me anywhere up to 90 minutes (obviously not all the time). But, ordinarily I could be doing many other things while waiting for food, than cooking it myself.

But cooking actual food is a really good use of time. And enjoyable.

I get that some folks lives, especially with a young family, maybe dont have the free time that I do, but even still, preparing and cooking a stew, (that can be used for more than one meal possibly), or a Spag Bol/pretty much any pasta dish, literally takes little more than 20 minutes.

Fresh pasta and a sauce, with a garlic bread, is 10 minutes, max.

 

[orchard]

As per the above, I can only speak of London, but <anecdote> my wife tells me that even the very poorest and most deprived homes she visits have basic cooking equipment in them </anecdote>. I've no doubt there are parts of the country where shops aren't easy to come by, but aside from increasing welfare, what are Labour proposing to do about that? Various economists over the past year or so have advocated mobility vouchers to encourage people to move (mainly for work), but if food isn't available where you are, then it's perhaps not the best place to live. Are there any plans for this kind of thing?

No idea mate. There are routes, although seasonal. A mate who ran an organic box scheme ensured helpers received a weekly veg box in exchange. I'm not sure how it stands nowadays, but Doubleday outlined how legislation ensured allotment access for all too, but this takes time and is more of a long-term thing.

 

[Jebus_lives]

But cooking actual food is a really good use of time. And enjoyable.

I get that some folks lives, especially with a young family, maybe dont have the free time that I do, but even still, preparing and cooking a stew, (that can be used for more than one meal possibly), or a Spag Bol/pretty much any pasta dish, literally takes little more than 20 minutes.

Fresh pasta and a sauce, with a garlic bread, is 10 minutes, max.

If you start work at 9 and finish at 5-6 then commute home, then perhaps get your child ready for bed, gym, tidy up by the time you've done that you then have to prepare food, it does take a lot of time.

It's a slightly redundant point as everyone seems to accept, at least in this chat, that people don't have the necessary understanding to buy on a budget and prepare food on a budget. So it's an educational issue that has created the problem.

I'd suggest that it's an issue that is linked to a number of others - diminishing access to public services, increase in cost of living and stagnating wages, a poor implementation of universal credit that leaves people without funding.

I've never experienced poverty, (not really) I've lived a relatively privileged life, but I've worked with people who have nothing and have no skills or means to contemplate, let alone improve, their situation. Suggesting to them that their issues might be solved simply by taking the time to rustle up a carbonara isn't particularly helpful to them.

I'd also point out that I once brought a bag of shopping for a guy to cook, who told me he couldn't afford to top up the electricity in his house so couldn't make it.

 

[Number_25]

People are believing that Brexit will be sorted by January 31st.

 

[tsubaki]

People are believing that Brexit will be sorted by January 31st.

People are believing 31000 is 50000

 

[gonetomorrow]

People are believing 31000 is 50000

Always remember the vast majority of the British public are stupid.
There was a woman on yesterday who's voting Tory for the first time "Well Boris has his heart in the right place doesn't he?"
Aye - up his erse!

 

[abelard]

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One for the Andy Burnham truthers

 

[evilwebby]

The betting markets are seeing lots of money come for a Tory majority this morning.

Even though their poll lead has been slightly eroded in the last week, I guess that as we move closer to polling day time is running for any bigger shift in public opinion that the opposition parties need in order to prevent Johnson winning.

Con maj: 2/5
Hung parliament: 11/4
Lab Maj: > 40/1

 

[hallamblue]

The betting markets are seeing lots of money come for a Tory majority this morning.

Even though their poll lead has been slightly eroded in the last week, I guess that as we move closer to polling day time is running for any bigger shift in public opinion that the opposition parties need in order to prevent Johnson winning.

Con maj: 2/5
Hung parliament: 11/4
Lab Maj: > 40/1

40/1 should be more like 4000/1, less chance than Leicester had of winning the league. When people in Bishop Auckland and Rotherhan are going to vote Tory you know it's the end of the line for Labour. Ironically, last and this election is the first time I've voted for them!!

 

[evilwebby]

40/1 should be more like 4000/1, less chance than Leicester had of winning the league. When people in Bishop Auckland and Rotherhan are going to vote Tory you know it's the end of the line for Labour. Ironically, last and this election is the first time I've voted for them!!

Odds are odds, mate, and they do what they say on the tin.
If you think the market is wrong you can always nakedly lay it (ie bet against that outcome) on Betfair.

 

[hallamblue]

Odds are odds, mate, and they do what they say on the tin.
If you think the market is wrong you can always nakedly lay it (ie bet against that outcome) on Betfair.

I haven't got enough money to lay at 40/1