The Fallout Thread

[KaiserEFC]

A thread for hindsight and discussion about the England World Cup journey.

For me Southgates stubbornness in his team selection finally came back to bite us. Playing with a horrendously out of form Alli and Sterling was akin to playing with 9 men.

I feel we absolutely underestimated Croatia, the media expected us to stroll in and batter them and I feel
That could’ve rubbed off on the England camp too

 

[nsno-chris]

His waistcoat is proper wank and he looks like an Eton spiv

 

[sageyefc]

Their performances have been massively overrated imo, they've played poor sides and struggled over the line in most of them, and against the 2 quality sides they got beat and were comfortabley second best

 

[Tubey]

Honestly the future looks better for England than it did a few years ago.

Yeah, you have the odd dud like Alli and Sterling but they have a chance to come good as they come to their peak years.

The spine of that side is surprisingly good, but they lack a metronome in midfield that can make things tick and provide a bit of invention. A fit and firing Ross Barkley would make that a very dangerous side, or a Loftus-Cheek in a few years perhaps.

All in all, England fans should be delighted with this tournament. I expected them to embarrass themselves and go out in the group stages, so for me they've vastly exceeded expectations, even when you consider the 'easy' run they had.

 

[Parker]

Can someone explain to me what Eric Dier is or does? Because I haven't got a clue

 

[Groucho]

Generally young side did well. They’ll do well at the Euros next time round.

Pickford comes home uninjured and with his confidence intact, possibly boosted.

Did well to get to a semi.

 

[ilikecheese]

Pickford comes home uninjured and with his confidence intact, possibly boosted.

This is all I cared about. Thank goodness.

 

[dublinbluenose]

How long before Pickford gets the blame for one or both of the goals

 

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[Bruce Wayne]

Honestly the future looks better for England than it did a few years ago.

Yeah, you have the odd dud like Alli and Sterling but they have a chance to come good as they come to their peak years.

The spine of that side is surprisingly good, but they lack a metronome in midfield that can make things tick and provide a bit of invention. A fit and firing Ross Barkley would make that a very dangerous side, or a Loftus-Cheek in a few years perhaps.

All in all, England fans should be delighted with this tournament. I expected them to embarrass themselves and go out in the group stages, so for me they've vastly exceeded expectations, even when you consider the 'easy' run they had.

It's better in the sense that they can take confidence from this, but you have to take into account reversion to the mean. They've been made to look better than they are by a hugely favourable draw, so for the Euros will have to continue improving significantly. I mean we're ranked I think 12th in the world, and we didn't beat anyone above us in that list. We'll go overboard as that's what we do, but I'm sure Southgate will keep some perspective.

 

[marsh]

Kane should square it to sterling for a tap in!
Stones needs to stay switched on and defend properly

 

[mmmmsnouts]

His waistcoat is proper wank and he looks like an Eton spiv

How many people have run out and bought a waistcoat because of him and won’t even wear it now, must be in the tens of thousands

 

[dannyboy]

A thread for hindsight and discussion about the England World Cup journey.

For me Southgates stubbornness in his team selection finally came back to bite us. Playing with a horrendously out of form Alli and Sterling was akin to playing with 9 men.

I feel we absolutely underestimated Croatia, the media expected us to stroll in and batter them and I feel
That could’ve rubbed off on the England camp too

We had the luck with the draw and took advantage of it. Getting to a World Cup semi final is a massive step forwards.

Overall though, I'm not convinced it's going to be a regular thing. The team still lacks balance and Croatia exploited the midfield tonight. We are absolutely crying out for a number 10 who can link the play together and there was no one to do it.

 

[nsno-chris]

How many people have run out and bought a waistcoat because of him and won’t even wear it now, must be in the tens of thousands

Buying shares in M&S now, sales through the roof

 

[Bruce Wayne]

How many people have run out and bought a waistcoat because of him and won’t even wear it now, must be in the tens of thousands

Seriously?