The Everton Board Thread

[blulouie]

Most of the angst now directed at who the new manager should/ will be.

Meanwhile the biggest problems are still here and part of the process of approving the new manager.

Couldn't make this up.

 

[GoldenToffee]

Both Kenwrong and Moshiri have done a real number on this club's immediate future, surely everybody can agree with that.

Kenwrong held us back due to his narcissism and selfishness in only wanting to sell to the "right" (for him --> Bill stays as Chairman regardless of whether somebody more successful could push us on) owner, and Moshiri for being clueless, majorly influenced by football agents, and continously getting hiring decisions wrong: Walsh in a job he's never done before, Brands allowed to recklessly lash several hundred million on duds who we still cannot sell and others who we've had to release after years out on loan with us subsidising their wages (Bolasie, Walcott, Niasse, Tosun, Alli, with Maupay, Keane, Mykolenko and McNeil to continue the trend - albeit only one of these a consequence of Brands), and Benitez being the most disgraceful hiring decision in the club's history.

Most of all, he failed to put his stamp on the club after his acquisition by allowing the Gaggle of Goodison Failures to remain more or less in charge of the day-to-day stuff. No surprise we've gone backwards with these clowns trusted to spend his millions.

The money that has been invested in Premier League clubs, and Moshiri is the best that Kenwrong could come up with? Not having it. If he had the club's best interests at heart it'd have been sold 20 years ago and he'd be but an unpleasant memory. The fact his Rovers Return stink is still haunting the place and he's getting his oversized head on TV with his cringeworthy soundbites is nothing short of laughable.

Yes, Moshiri has always been a shill for Usmanov, but in typical Everton fashion we weren't able to take advantage of having an owner worth about £50 billion pounds.

We won the lottery, and instead of ending up in a mansion with 20 acres, crystal chandeliers, marble flooring and a home cinema, we found ourselves in a council house with a dog dirt-filled yard, boarded up windows, mold up the walls and no plumbing.

Now for sale: Previously successful business allowed to decay over decades, current owner has purchased new premises with a move-in date of Q3 2024 and wishes to sell. Wealthy benefactor from the Middle East needed to guarantee a successful future.

As everybody is saying, there should be no way back for Kenwrong and Moshiri, but the pair of them, especially Anti-Blue Willy Head Bill, are so shameless that they won't be going anywhere until at least after the new ground is moved into and providing we are still in the Premier League or can get back to it quickly.

Both of them rich beyond their wildest dreams yet seemingly so clueless and out of touch with the business they own and run.

 

[when i score we riot]

Who even makes the decision? Thelwell?

If there's anything I know about this mess, the whole thing with having a director of football has been one massive failure, and it has undoubtedly made the managers' job worse.

 

[Lob]

You can already see that these idiots are doing the exact same thing again. We will do another full circle and be back here again in a short time with a deeper mess and an even worse mismatch of players and staff. Just by the list of managers we are linked with it is clear there is no plan. The profiles couldn't be any different. You can imagine them sitting there going round the table saying so who do fancy Denise, Graeme, Bill etc and then Moshiri with his more glamorous ones. Maybe they take turns to piece for who's choice it is. Wouldn't surprise me.

It is these fools that are running the show that need replacing.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

He did not fail as owner, that's just a ridiculous thing to say, if he failed what's Moshiri doing?

Interesting you say two pitches, do you mean by the first the time Peter Johnson bought the club, he wanted it then, unfortunately some, including Grantchester backed PJ over him, had he gained control of the club then he wouldn’t of needed to spend the early years of his ownership stabilising the club after Hamperman started to let it rot.
However he did, and gave Farhad a well run, stable Premier League club, the club we have today is a shadow of the club Farhad picked up.

For you to say

That's an idiotic thing to say, ask anyone who was around at the time, we were desperate to get shut of Johnson, and nobody was remotely interested in buying us, in saving us, in giving us a future..... apart from Bill.

The Moores family began our decline by not selling sooner when they realised they could no longer give the club sufficient financial support.
Johnson would have been the right man a few years earlier before the club had been damaged by underfunding.
He sold the club when he eventually realised he did not have the financial ability to fix the club, unlike his successor.
He also installed our last successful manager and thereby delivered our last major trophy.
Johnson was a qualified success when set against Kenwrights tenure.
In truth Kenwright’s bid was entirely reliant on the financial clout of the Greggs , and it is understandable when asked to fund the Kings Dock that they wanted control of the club. Kenwright should have ceded control of the club at that point or,once he had forced the Greggs’out , should have sold the club since he no longer had the funds to maintain or restore Everton to the top table we had previously occupied.
It is important to understand this is Everton football club we our talking about , an historically successful club who were routinely included in the so called ‘big five’ who together wielded the power to form the PL. We weren’t someone like Coventry whose main achievement was merely to survive in the top league (until their luck ran out).
Yet under Kenwright and Moyes we entered of period of benign neglect which saw us occupy the place of teams like Coventry where mere survival was deemed some form of success.
That was not the Everton that Kenwright took control off, that was not what he was expected to deliver when assumed control of the club.
If anyone took control of any business and delivered no meaningful success and only diminished its status, they would be deemed a failure.
Kenwright is a failure.
His motives are unimportant he failed to maintain Everton as a top cub , that is his legacy.
And we are now approaching the culmination of our prolonged decline.
Like Coventry , our luck has run out.

 

[Thomasc]

He did not fail as owner, that's just a ridiculous thing to say, if he failed what's Moshiri doing?

Interesting you say two pitches, do you mean by the first the time Peter Johnson bought the club, he wanted it then, unfortunately some, including Grantchester backed PJ over him, had he gained control of the club then he wouldn’t of needed to spend the early years of his ownership stabilising the club after Hamperman started to let it rot.
However he did, and gave Farhad a well run, stable Premier League club, the club we have today is a shadow of the club Farhad picked up.

For you to say

That's an idiotic thing to say, ask anyone who was around at the time, we were desperate to get shut of Johnson, and nobody was remotely interested in buying us, in saving us, in giving us a future..... apart from Bill.

Are you just trying to be controversial?
I mean, I could as others have list his lies, his failings and his record as a chairman,

But like the staunch right wing Tory’s who refuse to accept Johnson was the worst PM in living memory, you seem to be going down the same route with Kenwright. Is it out of stubbornness and you have dug that big a hole for yourself that you can’t now even try and dig yourself out?

Embarrassing mate.

Your claim we were well run until Moshiri turned up. How about this list?
He tried to move us to Kirkby for his own benefit.
He sold the best player we’ve ever had and made the lad put in a transfer request to make it look like he was forcing a move, just because he wouldn’t go to the club Kenwright decided he should go to.
Fortress and Samuelson lies.
Kings Dock.
Etc etc etc.

The only good thing he ever did was appoint Moyes who was a young manager and hungry to make a name for himself. That’s it, the end.

 

[Johnniepk]

Bills legacy = blue gravel.

 

[bullybeef]

Heard auld gravy guzzler on talksport before hinting at boardroom disharmony.

It’s no wonder we are screwed.

 

[GoldenToffee]

Bills legacy = blue gravel.

And trying to replace Z Cars, and move Everton to Kirkby into a Tesco stadium.

 

[bullybeef]

Who even makes the decision? Thelwell?

If there's anything I know about this mess, the whole thing with having a director of football has been one massive failure, and it has undoubtedly made the managers' job worse.

Thelwell is nothing but a mere puppet for the pay masters.

A very well paid puppet though.

 

[Dixieslaces]

He did not fail as owner, that's just a ridiculous thing to say, if he failed what's Moshiri doing?

Interesting you say two pitches, do you mean by the first the time Peter Johnson bought the club, he wanted it then, unfortunately some, including Grantchester backed PJ over him, had he gained control of the club then he wouldn’t of needed to spend the early years of his ownership stabilising the club after Hamperman started to let it rot.
However he did, and gave Farhad a well run, stable Premier League club, the club we have today is a shadow of the club Farhad picked up.

For you to say

That's an idiotic thing to say, ask anyone who was around at the time, we were desperate to get shut of Johnson, and nobody was remotely interested in buying us, in saving us, in giving us a future..... apart from Bill.

Just stop with defending the indefensible.
See the big picture, which is due to Bill and Moshiri combined we now face the abyss.
Its really that simple, both parties are equally to blame for absolute incompetence, but the rot started long, long before Moshiri got his grubby little hands on us.
Its tiresome, boring and contrary in the extreme of you to bang on about this wonderful Bill that does NOT exist.
They are all charlatans, they have effectively finished the club if they remain in control.

 

[Terrarian]

Screwing us right over this lot while becoming extremely wealthy in the process. Earning nearly £1m each no wonder we're buggered financially.

 

[barneygumble]

They need to back off now.

If they truly trust Kevin Thelwell, and I have no idea if they do, as it was Cahill pulling the strings, then they need to back off.

For the sake of the club, their asset and the rest.

If Thelwell wants Winless, Ex-wolves manager Terry Connor, that’s who we go with. Let the man do his job, and I’m sure he’ll pick the right candidate.

 

[COYB75]

The Moores family began our decline by not selling sooner when they realised they could no longer give the club sufficient financial support.
Johnson would have been the right man a few years earlier before the club had been damaged by underfunding.
He sold the club when he eventually realised he did not have the financial ability to fix the club, unlike his successor.
He also installed our last successful manager and thereby delivered our last major trophy.
Johnson was a qualified success when set against Kenwrights tenure.
In truth Kenwright’s bid was entirely reliant on the financial clout of the Greggs , and it is understandable when asked to fund the Kings Dock that they wanted control of the club. Kenwright should have ceded control of the club at that point or,once he had forced the Greggs’out , should have sold the club since he no longer had the funds to maintain or restore Everton to the top table we had previously occupied.
It is important to understand this is Everton football club we our talking about , an historically successful club who were routinely included in the so called ‘big five’ who together wielded the power to form the PL. We weren’t someone like Coventry whose main achievement was merely to survive in the top league (until their luck ran out).
Yet under Kenwright and Moyes we entered of period of benign neglect which saw us occupy the place of teams like Coventry where mere survival was deemed some form of success.
That was not the Everton that Kenwright took control off, that was not what he was expected to deliver when assumed control of the club.
If anyone took control of any business and delivered no meaningful success and only diminished its status, they would be deemed a failure.
Kenwright is a failure.
His motives are unimportant he failed to maintain Everton as a top cub , that is his legacy.
And we are now approaching the culmination of our prolonged decline.
Like Coventry , our luck has run out.

Couldn't have put it any better! ?

 

[Groucho]

The Moores family began our decline by not selling sooner when they realised they could no longer give the club sufficient financial support.
Johnson would have been the right man a few years earlier before the club had been damaged by underfunding.
He sold the club when he eventually realised he did not have the financial ability to fix the club, unlike his successor.
He also installed our last successful manager and thereby delivered our last major trophy.
Johnson was a qualified success when set against Kenwrights tenure.
In truth Kenwright’s bid was entirely reliant on the financial clout of the Greggs , and it is understandable when asked to fund the Kings Dock that they wanted control of the club. Kenwright should have ceded control of the club at that point or,once he had forced the Greggs’out , should have sold the club since he no longer had the funds to maintain or restore Everton to the top table we had previously occupied.
It is important to understand this is Everton football club we our talking about , an historically successful club who were routinely included in the so called ‘big five’ who together wielded the power to form the PL. We weren’t someone like Coventry whose main achievement was merely to survive in the top league (until their luck ran out).
Yet under Kenwright and Moyes we entered of period of benign neglect which saw us occupy the place of teams like Coventry where mere survival was deemed some form of success.
That was not the Everton that Kenwright took control off, that was not what he was expected to deliver when assumed control of the club.
If anyone took control of any business and delivered no meaningful success and only diminished its status, they would be deemed a failure.
Kenwright is a failure.
His motives are unimportant he failed to maintain Everton as a top cub , that is his legacy.
And we are now approaching the culmination of our prolonged decline.
Like Coventry , our luck has run out.