The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[bourneblue]

What i can't understand is how is this not headline news on sky sports as any other takeover of a premier league club rumour would be.
Plus Alan Brazil's comments appears to me to be a verbatim quote from the bunion book of buzz phrases.
Who's playing silly buggers with the media again ?
Yes the mind boggles.

 

[magicjuan]

For every Man City or Chelsea there are a Portsmouth.
We need a new stadium to progress, be it with or without Bill. But we are now financially stable (we broke even before summer sales and the new TV deal last year) and as result have a solid foundation from which to grow and win stuff again. Whether we do or not will be telling.

That has absolutely nothing to do with the board's business acumen, luck on their part the tv deal panned out the way it did, so stable is much an exaggeration

 

[Moomin]

What i can't understand is how is this not headline news on sky sports as any other takeover of a premier league club rumour would be.
Plus Alan Brazil's comments appears to me to be a verbatim quote from the bunion book of buzz phrases.
Who's playing silly buggers with the media again ?
Yes the mind boggles.

I really doubt the Blue Union ( Are they still formed?? ) has any pull with Alan Brazil. Mike Parry has had a working relationship with Alan over the years, but i was listening the other week when Alan first brought it up and Parry was on the show and said along the lines " I'm not getting my hopes up, we have heard similar things for years " so i doubt its come from him. Mr Brazil is a frequent around the city boys bars around Canary Wharf, no doubt its come up in a conversation at a bar.

If its true, it gives more credence to a former poster of this parish " Sheedy " who is now employed in the football agent world. He said many years back he knew someone trying to broker a deal for the Jain group to buy Everton and it was like pulling teeth. Apparently we took months to get back to Jain from the initial enquiry and are a nightmare to deal with. Now, if anyone here has even worked or done deals with people from the middle east, you get one chance in most cases and if you screw up your card is marked and rarely would you get another chance with them.

 

[Steve Wigan]

They did, but nobody listened.

OK...so tell us again, now that everybodys listening.......

 

[Moomin]

OK...so tell us again, now that everybodys listening.......

Is the Blue Union still formed?? It had elements in which l did not like. KEIOC on the other hand done a fantastic job, and i wish they had kept themselves seperate from the other elements of the Blue Union.

My view on it.

 

[Bungle]

OK...so tell us again, now that everybodys listening.......

Maybe a 2 tier cake would have been the better option?

 

[magicjuan]

I really doubt the Blue Union ( Are they still formed?? ) has any pull with Alan Brazil. Mike Parry has had a working relationship with Alan over the years, but i was listening the other week when Alan first brought it up and Parry was on the show and said along the lines " I'm not getting my hopes up, we have heard similar things for years " so i doubt its come from him. Mr Brazil is a frequent around the city boys bars around Canary Wharf, no doubt its come up in a conversation at a bar.

If its true, it gives more credence to a former poster of this parish " Sheedy " who is now employed in the football agent world. He said many years back he knew someone trying to broker a deal for the Jain group to buy Everton and it was like pulling teeth. Apparently we took months to get back to Jain from the initial enquiry and are a nightmare to deal with. Now, if anyone here has even worked or done deals with people from the middle east, you get one chance in most cases and if you screw up your card is marked and rarely would you get another chance with them.

That Jain deal was huge, it wasn't just about the club, it was about the infrastructure in the area primarily.
The people involved included global finance houses, government officials and the purchase of the club was a fragment of the value.
That was the second genuine interet one I know of definitely that the club ballsed up. The first was a Chinese consortium, pretty similar set up.

NEA if someone calls me on it, the meetings took place where I used to work, I was there when they happened, 4 with the Chinese 3 with Jain, others took place around the city centre.

 

[Steve Wigan]

That Jain deal was huge, it wasn't just about the club, it was about the infrastructure in the area primarily.
The people involved included global finance houses, government officials and the purchase of the club was a fragment of the value.
That was the second genuine interet one I know of definitely that the club ballsed up. The first was a Chinese consortium, pretty similar set up.

NEA if someone calls me on it, the meetings took place where I used to work, I was there when they happened, 4 with the Chinese 3 with Jain, others took place around the city centre.

Morning Magic...you quite rightly say that the Jain deal was a massive deal about the regeneration, rebuilding of a whole area, and that the purchase of the club was 'a fragment of the value' You then go on to say that the club 'ballsed up'. Surely if the club were only a small fraction of the whole deal, its more likely that the rest of the deal simply didn't get off the ground, and therefore the purchase of the club(in your words 'a small fragment') no longer became a neccessity for Jain ? So how was it a 'balls up' by the club?

 

[Jacko93]

Then he lied at the beginning by saying McCarthy would have happened with or without Fellaini going.

TBF, it all depends on the context. He may be saying that he might not of needed James McCarthy had Fellaini not have been going. As far as I can rememeber, the McCarthy happeniong with or without Fellaini going was in asnswer to a sell to buy question, not a football style or needs related one.

It is a quote taken from an article in which he discusses how he feels Fellaini will do ok given time at United, I think he;s likely saying, he would've been good enough to continue with us, and had he of been staying I would've been happy enough to use him over McCarthy.

Or, his card has just been declined at Morrisons, and Bill told him why over the phone.

 

[paultheblue]

It's possible Bill and the Board have no intention of selling and speaking as an Evertonian, if i was in his position with the way the club is now, I can't really blame him, he's Chairman of one of the great institutions of English football and a fan, he's living the dream.
One thing I do know is that all the bitching in the world on an internet forum isn't going to make a single bit of god damn difference.

Your attitude is the reason this club will never get back where it use to be ,You are quite happy for Kenwright to carry on "living the dream".
As a club we slotted over £18 million over the last 2 years on transfer dealings,Obviously money was spent on loan signings but this does not make business sense as it is dead money.
We have a chairman who constantly bullshits us with hints of a new stadium just to keep the masses happy and we swallow it hook line and sinker year in year out.
Will you still be happy with him living the dream when Barry , Lukaku and Delafou have moved on.The next thing will be Coleman,Barkley and Stones moving on because of the lack of real ambition at the club?
I am forcasting no more than a £10 million spend after sales in the summer anybody who believes we will spend £20 million is in cloud cuckoo land we need to save our money for the new ground that keeps being promised but will never happen under this charlaton.
But never mind eh lets not complain lets just carry on taking it up the hoop.

 

[Steve Wigan]

Kenwright wanted Megson until Walter Smith pointed him in Moyes direction.

(He was probably cheaper which sealed the deal).

Gary Megson was one of the names bandied about by the media because there was a vacancy at Everton, along with other names. Walter mentioned Moyes to Kenwright shortly after Kenwright sacked him, maybe even in the same conversation.

 

[tonka1878]

Your attitude is the reason this club will never get back where it use to be ,You are quite happy for Kenwright to carry on "living the dream".
As a club we slotted over £18 million over the last 2 years on transfer dealings,Obviously money was spent on loan signings but this does not make business sense as it is dead money.
We have a chairman who constantly bullshits us with hints of a new stadium just to keep the masses happy and we swallow it hook line and sinker year in year out.
Will you still be happy with him living the dream when Barry , Lukaku and Delafou have moved on.The next thing will be Coleman,Barkley and Stones moving on because of the lack of real ambition at the club?
I am forcasting no more than a £10 million spend after sales in the summer anybody who believes we will spend £20 million is in cloud cuckoo land we need to save our money for the new ground that keeps being promised but will never happen under this charlaton.
But never mind eh lets not complain lets just carry on taking it up the hoop.

What can I do about it. It's not one man one vote. When the uprising starts I'll grab a pitch fork but until then, we're all just pissing in the wind.

And nowhere in my post does it say I am "happy" about it.

 

[Jacko93]

Your attitude is the reason this club will never get back where it use to be ,You are quite happy for Kenwright to carry on "living the dream".
As a club we slotted over £18 million over the last 2 years on transfer dealings,Obviously money was spent on loan signings but this does not make business sense as it is dead money.
We have a chairman who constantly bullshits us with hints of a new stadium just to keep the masses happy and we swallow it hook line and sinker year in year out.
Will you still be happy with him living the dream when Barry , Lukaku and Delafou have moved on.The next thing will be Coleman,Barkley and Stones moving on because of the lack of real ambition at the club?
I am forcasting no more than a £10 million spend after sales in the summer anybody who believes we will spend £20 million is in cloud cuckoo land we need to save our money for the new ground that keeps being promised but will never happen under this charlaton.
But never mind eh lets not complain lets just carry on taking it up the hoop.

Is this true? Is there no business sense to a loan? None at all? You then make out we were only happy because those loans who may be going? How much would it have costed to bring those players in? £7-8m for Barry? £20m Lukaku? £15-20 Deulofeu? then wages, including the rest of the Barry wages that we re heavily subsidised? I dunno, I'm guessing. However, what did they actually cost us? Maybe £10m in total plus wages? Having these players in our team improved us during the season, we have performed better by having them and at £1.75m per place in the premier league, we'd only have to finish 5 places higher to make that money back, with that higher place we got Europe, which allows to earn even more. To me, it makes perfect business sense.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

He sold it for £2 mn and leased it back for £75 mn

Do we lease a field?

 

[D410]

Your attitude is the reason this club will never get back where it use to be ,You are quite happy for Kenwright to carry on "living the dream".
As a club we slotted over £18 million over the last 2 years on transfer dealings,Obviously money was spent on loan signings but this does not make business sense as it is dead money.
We have a chairman who constantly bullshits us with hints of a new stadium just to keep the masses happy and we swallow it hook line and sinker year in year out.
Will you still be happy with him living the dream when Barry , Lukaku and Delafou have moved on.The next thing will be Coleman,Barkley and Stones moving on because of the lack of real ambition at the club?
I am forcasting no more than a £10 million spend after sales in the summer anybody who believes we will spend £20 million is in cloud cuckoo land we need to save our money for the new ground that keeps being promised but will never happen under this charlaton.
But never mind eh lets not complain lets just carry on taking it up the hoop.

We should build a campfire, hold hands, sing songs and pretend in our heads that everything is going to change becuase of the power of bobbys brown shoe.