The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

Is it time for Change...???

  • Kenwright an the Board out, We need Change.

    Votes: 503 80.0%
  • Im Happy with the way thing are. Kenwright an the Board should stay

    Votes: 126 20.0%

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With just over four days of the transfer window remaining, Everton manager David Moyes looks set to emerge the other side with a weakened squad. Nothing new there, then.

However, while Steven Pienaar, Yakubu and James Vaughan have left the Toffees – albeit the latter two on loan – there has been an unusual dearth of ‘near misses’ at Goodison Park this January. No failed medicals, no rejected work permit applications, not even an embarrassing putdown from a continental player claiming not to have heard of Everton before.

It’s almost as if the fire in David Moyes’ belly has been extinguished by the drip, drip, drip of rainwater through Goodison’s inadequate roofing. Indeed - if one was to take chief executive Robert ‘Suntan Bobby’ Elstone at his word while he was trying to convince Evertonians that moving to a concrete burial ground outside of city limits was the only way forwards – the grand old lady could at any moment be reduced to rubble by the hop, skip and jump of a canary.

On the drip

Drip, drip, drip goes the rainwater as it leaks through Goodison’s bandaged crown and drip, drip, drip go the staggered payments of signings past. In the ‘never never’ land of Everton’s transfer policy, debts never grow old and Bill Kenwright’s infamous assertion that “you don’t need £5m to buy a £5m player” begins to look less like a modus operandi and more like an admission of defeat.

Let’s get one thing straight: the only reason that Kenwright has not been rode out of town, gagged and bound and tied to the back of a mule, is David Moyes. Even our fair media have fallen repeatedly into the trap of lauding Kenwright’s stabilising influence on Everton’s revival – which, taking the last twenty years as a microcosm, it has been – when all along it has been the Scot’s clever management of the scant resources available to him that has prevented the club from going into meltdown.

Indeed, were Kenwright to sell up tomorrow, his list of achievements would simply read: “Not sacking David Moyes at times when other chairmen might have, although we probably couldn’t have afforded to anyway.” Even crediting him for his appointment in the first place is tenuous if you place any stock in the notion generally held by Evertonians that Kenwright wished to appoint Gary Megson as Walter Smith’s successor, only for the current Rangers boss to insist upon the suitability of a certain bulgy-eyed redhead working wonders at Preston North End.

Winter of discontent

For all of this season’s disappointment, Moyes is significantly in credit at Goodison. During his tenure, Everton have finished 7th, 17th, 4th, 11th, 6th, 5th, 5th and 8th in the Premier League while operating on a similar budget to that which had under Smith and Howard Kendall (the third coming of) made even a top half finish look like a pipe dream. Sadly, a lack of investment will eventually catch up with any business and approximately three seasons’ worth of being told he must sell to buy – and even then only what remains after servicing debts – looks like it has finally done for Moyes’ Everton.

It was always going to be the case that Moyes and his players would only be able to huff and puff so far before the lack of squad refreshment caught up with them. Now that they once more find themselves struggling in the bottom half of the table – arguably their rightful place, based solely on finance – supporter unrest, mutterings of discontent and various other ominous clichés have begun to circle.

Given that all-out transparency is a frowned upon commodity in modern Premier League boardrooms, no-one can truly tell what Kenwright’s motives are. His contention that the club is for sale looks more questionable with each year that passes without a taker, with some convinced that he merely wishes to cling onto control of his train set for the rest of his days. Others simply point to the fact that the costly need for either stadium development or relocation is enough to put off any would be buyer, especially when factoring in what is unlikely to be a moderate asking price on Kenwright’s part.

Gambling man

However, there is also the theory that the cloud-haired theatre impresario is simply holding on until the new Uefa regulations take place in 2012; that is, those dictating that clubs will not be allowed to spend above and beyond their revenues, effectively preventing all those oligarchs and moguls from ploughing billions into a club in order to achieve world domination before tiring of it all and tossing them aside like a rag doll torn a new “back of it” (…and there’s the obligatory Richard Keys reference).

Everton may well emerge from these changes in a position of strength given their by-no-means-disastrous levels of debt, regular supply line of saleable assets (think Wayne Rooney and *gulp* Jack Rodwell), relatively sensible wage structure and the fact that they are by now well used to working within their means, barring the odd intervention from monied pals of Kenwright such as Phillip Green, whom one imagines wouldn’t mind his money back, now that you mention it.

What would rankle in this scenario is the gamble that Kenwright would have taken in getting there, a gamble which more or less boils down to the performance and ability of one man; namely David Moyes. Under a less competent manager, Everton may well have sunk already, with only a productive youth system to give any hope of not becoming the next Sheffield Wednesday. Indeed, there are no guarantees that the Toffees will survive next season or, as unlikely as it may seem, this. Suddenly, what would have been prescient forward-thinking had it worked becomes the unforgivable final suffocation of a once-great institution.

Cancelled flights

No-one could blame Moyes if he walked tomorrow as he would leave having done all that could possibly have been asked of him, bequeathing as he would a relatively young squad full of players - like Rodwell, Marouane Fellaini and Leighton Baines – with significant sell-on value. Part of a manager’s responsibility is not to make life bloody difficult for his successor; witness, for example, the aging mess of a squad that a feted Sam Allardyce left when he triumphantly bowed out at Bolton Wanderers. Under Moyes, there are no such concerns.

What is of major concern, however, is how much of Kenwright’s apparent plans are pinned to Moyes continuing to build, in a financial context, over-performing sides. Having repeatedly dragged Everton to the brink of takeoff only for lack of investment to cancel the flight, Moyes should not be demonised for the disappointing performance of his admittedly talented side this season. Fortunately, barring a few perspective-free loons on internet message boards, the majority of Evertonians recognise Moyes as the club’s greatest asset of the last decade.

If he is to be its greatest asset of the next decade as well, something has got to give in the Everton boardroom. A few more disappointing results and things could turn ugly.

I read that earlier here mate , http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/49689/Is_Bill_Kenwright_suffocating_Everton.aspx Lets all wait till the end of the transfer window and see where we stand..
 
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Hang on a minute, does this mean Bill Kenwright is Santa? I'm totally confused.

I just think protesting with fellow blues sounds a laugh, with serious undertones of course. Come on, his office is only a stones throw from Paddington!! Do you reckon he keeps his Reindeers there?
 
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Agreed mate, we are going to be releasing a website very soon which will be far more precise on what are goals are and how we want to achieve them. We are in this for the long game and we do have a strategy in place that will need Evertonians help. We can't do it without the fans and will be looking to involve people more. Just to show this is more than just a facebook campaign things that are under development...

1: Website.

2: Leafleting campaign.

3: Podcast "appearances".

4: Trying to get coverage from the media. (Those of you who follow us or Greg O Keeffe on Twitter will know that we had positive discussions with him)


Get behind Evertonians for Change. Obviously only aimed at those who want change. Those happy with our current state need not apply.
 
Lifted from Kipper:

Agreed mate, we are going to be releasing a website very soon which will be far more precise on what are goals are and how we want to achieve them. We are in this for the long game and we do have a strategy in place that will need Evertonians help. We can't do it without the fans and will be looking to involve people more. Just to show this is more than just a facebook campaign things that are under development...

1: Website.

2: Leafleting campaign.

3: Podcast "appearances".

4: Trying to get coverage from the media. (Those of you who follow us or Greg O Keeffe on Twitter will know that we had positive discussions with him)


Get behind Evertonians for Change. Obviously only aimed at those who want change. Those happy with our current state need not apply.

This is good , I am all for forcing change as long as the majority of the Everton fans are for it , This needs to be done in the right way not walking thru the streets of Liverpool like those across the park..
 

Im sorry but the ****e across the park with all the demos marchs and banners did not remove the yanks from there postion as owners of the club RBS did, they made it hard for them yes but if they could have paid of there debt like they had attempted to they would still be there now digging there heals in waiting for a massive offer to come in
 
Im sorry but the ****e across the park with all the demos marchs and banners did not remove the yanks from there postion as owners of the club RBS did, they made it hard for them yes but if they could have paid of there debt like they had attempted to they would still be there now digging there heals in waiting for a massive offer to come in

so you advocate doing nothing while Bill carries on believing that every fan thinks the sun shines out of his arse and that he ****es rainbows?
 
so you advocate doing nothing while Bill carries on believing that every fan thinks the sun shines out of his arse and that he ****es rainbows?

No i dont think we should sit back and not do anything but tell me in your opinion what you think protests will achieve?
 
so you advocate doing nothing while Bill carries on believing that every fan thinks the sun shines out of his arse and that he ****es rainbows?

I think he knows thats not the case .But repetive threads on here are also not going to achieve much besides add tension to an already crappy transfer window .What he is saying is it wasn´t the R\S making thier club the laughing stock of the league that forced the yanks out it was the banks. They were a knats fart from administration. I do not think putting pressure on Kenright and the board at this present moment in time will help Evertons cause in any way.
 
Im sorry but the ****e across the park with all the demos marchs and banners did not remove the yanks from there postion as owners of the club RBS did, they made it hard for them yes but if they could have paid of there debt like they had attempted to they would still be there now digging there heals in waiting for a massive offer to come in

They were stopped from doing that by supporter campaigns hitting commercial organisations.

It was a major factor in why H&G were toppled. No question, imo.
 

They were stopped from doing that by supporter campaigns hitting commercial organisations.

It was a major factor in why H&G were toppled. No question, imo.

I dident know that Davek i stand corrected on that point, but what im getting at is what would it realistically achieve apart from having a massive negitive affect on the team
 
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Then do something about it , writing and moaning in here isn't going to do you any good is it??

Going by your logic then we may as well just not use GOT. Voicing our opinions is what GOT is here for. You may be sick of the board bashing but what about the constant bashing of David Moyes that you subjected everyone to not so long ago. This is a forum which encourages Evertonians to post their thoughts on their club and they shouldn't be dissuaded from doing so by you.
 
They were stopped from doing that by supporter campaigns hitting commercial organisations.

It was a major factor in why H&G were toppled. No question, imo.

I don´t think so Davek ,it certainly brought it to the attention of the worlds press.But as to major factor?If the new buyer had not appeared they would still be there now.
 

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