The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

[joey_macmo]

Isn't he a self made multi millionaire???

from a particular Field that is so far removed from everton it's unreal, I doubt someone like David Gill could run a theatre company well but in the football industry he's light years ahead of Kenwright.

 

[The Esk]

BK like it or not, is a successful businessman.

His modus operandi is to "sweat assets".

This means you invest sufficient to gain ownership, but beyond that you work the asset as hard as possible without further investment. In the case of his theatre interests that results in profits/dividends from a low cost/low capex business (usually one that defers capital investment as far as it possibly can) - in the case of Everton, find a manager (managers) who can build a low cost team that consistently out-performs more expensive competition.

Capital and investment return achieved by selling "sweated" assets to third party.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Biggest conman in England

It's daft comments like this that don't do the campaign for change any favours whatsoever

Puerile nonsense

 

[AaronTheBlue]

It's daft comments like this that don't do the campaign for change any favours whatsoever

Puerile nonsense

he is one of the biggest con-men in football.

And one of his biggest cons is fooling evertonians into thinking he's a good chairman whose been boss for the club.

People are clueless, and it'll be THEIR fault in a few years when we have no asset- oh wait, we already don't have any assets, except playing staff.

 

[blulouie]

BK like it or not, is a successful businessman.

His modus operandi is to "sweat assets".

This means you invest sufficient to gain ownership, but beyond that you work the asset as hard as possible without further investment. In the case of his theatre interests that results in profits/dividends from a low cost/low capex business (usually one that defers capital investment as far as it possibly can) - in the case of Everton, find a manager (managers) who can build a low cost team that consistently out-performs more expensive competition.

Capital and investment return achieved by selling "sweated" assets to third party.

In the States they call it Moneyball.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

BK like it or not, is a successful businessman.

His modus operandi is to "sweat assets".

This means you invest sufficient to gain ownership, but beyond that you work the asset as hard as possible without further investment. In the case of his theatre interests that results in profits/dividends from a low cost/low capex business (usually one that defers capital investment as far as it possibly can) - in the case of Everton, find a manager (managers) who can build a low cost team that consistently out-performs more expensive competition.

Capital and investment return achieved by selling "sweated" assets to third party.

Kenwright didn't take control at Everton with a genuine desire to make money imo.

If a ROI was his prime motive he'd have shifted it and made a tasty return while he was still young enough to fully enjoy the proceeds.

His motive was always about his ego and desire to fulfil a 'dream'. He's way out of depth in terms of resource and he knows it, but the ego driven desire for some form of Everton legacy stops him from doing the right thing by the club and ultimately himself.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

he is one of the biggest con-men in football.

And one of his biggest cons is fooling evertonians into thinking he's a good chairman whose been boss for the club.

People are clueless, and it'll be THEIR fault in a few years when we have no asset- oh wait, we already don't have any assets, except playing staff.

Assets? What assets? You're regurgitating absolute mince lad.

The only asset that's been disposed of is the crap hole that was Bellefield. Goodison has debt secured on it, it's not been disposed of, people making out that's the case who actually understand business finance are being disingenuous

 

[AaronTheBlue]

Assets? What assets? You're regurgitating absolute mince lad.

The only asset that's been disposed of is the crap hole that was Bellefield. Goodison has debt secured on it, it's not been disposed of, people making out that's the case who actually understand business finance are being disingenuous

am i yeah?

exactly what assets, we don't own anything.

We don't own goodison, we don't own our training ground, if you think thats acceptable then you're an absolute melt.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

am i yeah?

exactly what assets, we don't own anything.

We don't own goodison, we don't own our training ground, if you think thats acceptable then you're an absolute melt.

We do own Goodison, we've borrowings secured against it, you patently don't understand the difference

Melt btw? lol. Go to bed little boy the adults are talking

 

[AaronTheBlue]

We do own Goodison, we've borrowed a gains it, you patently don't understands the difference

I understand that failure to repay what we have borrowed against it means it would be taken off of us, and the fact that essentially owning zero other assets than playing staff, and asking for a near 120m return on a very low investment is a con.

I'm going to swerve giving you any more replies because if you think how we are ran, and who runs us are acceptable, and good enough for everton fc we will not see eye to eye.

 

[The Esk]

Kenwright didn't take control at Everton with a genuine desire to make money imo.

If an ROI was his prime motive he'd have shifted it and made a tasty return while he was still young enough to fully enjoy the proceeds.

His motive was always about his ego and desire to fulfil a 'dream'. He's way out of depth in terms of resource and he knows it, but the ego driven desire for some form of Everton legacy stops him from doing the right thing by the club and ultimately himself.

I tend to agree re his motivation and his original purchase of Everton shares (regardless of the funding of that purchase).

Nevertheless his MO is to sweat assets and I suspect he's caught in a dilemma of his own making, part owning something he loves, not able to provide the investment required, not willing to give up his prize (ego as you say) and in the full knowledge that whilst we perform on the pitch, his "investment" increases in value.

No wonder his 24/7 activities have not born fruit.....

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I tend to agree re his motivation and his original purchase of Everton shares (regardless of the funding of that purchase).

Nevertheless his MO is to sweat assets and I suspect he's caught in a dilemma of his own making, part owning something he loves, not able to provide the investment required, not willing to give up his prize (ego as you say) and in the full knowledge that whilst we perform on the pitch, his "investment" increases in value.

No wonder his 24/7 activities have not born fruit.....

In fairness every businessman 'sweats' his assets mate, but they generally have a plan as to how to generate their return. If Bills was always via an exit strategy then he's in grave danger of exiting full stop before his 'sweated asset' bears fruit.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I understand that failure to repay what we have borrowed against it means it would be taken off of us, and the fact that essentially owning zero other assets than playing staff, and asking for a near 120m return on a very low investment is a con.

I'm going to swerve giving you any more replies because if you think how we are ran, and who runs us are acceptable, and good enough for everton fc we will not see eye to eye.

You're trying (in vain) to put words in my mouth and for that reason I think you're right to back out at this point, as you're well out of your depth.

 

[AaronTheBlue]

You're trying (in vain) to put words in my mouth and for that reason I think you're right to back out at this point, as you're well out of your depth.

Not trying put words into your mouth, i would say 'you are saying' if i was trying to do that, but i do believe that's what you think. But i'd let you make a fool of yourself by saying something like that before i claim you actually said it myself.

Let's be honest, i'm really not out of my depth and the fact you tried making a sneaky edit to your post by calling me a little boy, shows more about yourself than it does about me.

 

[The Esk]

If Bills was always via an exit strategy then he's in grave danger of exiting full stop before his 'sweated asset' bears fruit

Every strategy has its risks, and this is Bill's