the england thread for non the england fans

[TaffyToffee85]

Just for the record, I have nothing against the team, I just hate the arrogant supporters telling other people from smaller devolved nations to “cry more” and “haters gonna hate” and other such nastiness. That post up there a few posts above mine for example.

Also, why are the FA doing nothing about the booing, abusing a 10 year old and using war references?. She wasn’t born 80 years ago, her grandfather most probably wasn’t even born when Anne Frank died (someone said in a picture caption “We haven’t forgotten your Grandpa killed Anne Frank, you Nazi b*tch”). Whoever cheered when her face was put on the big screen should be very ashamed of themselves, as well as the “take to Twitter” brigade. That picture of Leonardo Di Caprio with a camera, that they are making out is the cameraman focusing on the girl is pathetic. Lowest of the low.

No big football figure is saying anything about it, only Stan Collymore who asked his followers this….





The FA are an organisation that run and regulate the English game, but are doing nothing and give Prince William a job and seat next to Ed Sheeran, while he puts his son in a suit and tie for a football game. I bet the FA think “Let them get away with it, it’s the new patriotic!.”

No it’s not, singing “Ten German Bombers” during wartime was patriotic. School kids made it up and sang it during the war, but times have moved on and today it’s offensive for all the right reasons.

In Germany, an English girl celebrated the win and the locals there applauded her. In England it’s xenophobic behaviour and child abuse online towards someone who cried because the national team of her country lost.

I hate to think England is becoming a xenophobic country with Brexit encouraging it. At the last World Cup the England fans behaved brilliantly and I was even backing the team to win. This time round the toxic media, lack of protesting from the media and footballing figures let alone governing bodies to stop the booing etc, alongside the jingoism from fans and the media let alone the knee booing….. has simply tainted it for me. Even my English mum thinks it’s funny and “justified”. She hates Germans “for what they did to our RAF men during the war”. I am shocked and appalled, even dad agrees, but they did both agree with me on the bullying the 10 year old girl got. They think the booing during the anthem was funny and signing “Ten German Bombers” and “2 World Wars….”

I don’t care if they win the tournament, I don’t care if they go out. I enjoy these tournaments, but when Wales went out it took me a day to get over it, when Everton lost the cup final to Chelsea, it took me a week.

I don’t hate the England team, please let me put that out there. I support an English team as you know and would love to see them involved in a Euros winning team, especially Pickford who 100 percent is the reason they haven’t conceded yet. If it don’t happen, then so be it, it’s no disappointment like the cup final was, or not winning the league/not getting a CL place after our fantastic start to the season.

 

[TaffyToffee85]

I agree with every word. I also would like to add that England are making a very bad advert of themselves as a nation through this loud minority. Millions watched the game worldwide, millions use “social media”, so saw all the hateful tweets towards an infant while hearing the booing all game long and German anthem long beforehand.

How everyone sings the U.K. anthem with so much gusto as if it’s great really is annoying, even during the matches as a terrace chant. It’s a horrible dirge about a monarch like the guy in the video says, and that lot were derived from Nazis anyway, yet England fans love the Royals despite deriving from a country they seem to have so much hate for.

If England wants to keep bidding for international tournament hostings, it needs to sort its sh*t out, as nobody in the FIFA delegations will vote for them (IF they actually care about the xenophobic behaviour, unlike UEFA and the FA).

 

[Seathestars]

Hard to know who these lefties hate more, themselves, England or Jews

 

[Preki]

I agree with every word. I also would like to add that England are making a very bad advert of themselves as a nation through this loud minority. Millions watched the game worldwide, millions use “social media”, so saw all the hateful tweets towards an infant while hearing the booing all game long and German anthem long beforehand.

How everyone sings the U.K. anthem with so much gusto as if it’s great really is annoying, even during the matches as a terrace chant. It’s a horrible dirge about a monarch like the guy in the video says, and that lot were derived from Nazis anyway, yet England fans love the Royals despite deriving from a country they seem to have so much hate for.

If England wants to keep bidding for international tournament hostings, it needs to sort its sh*t out, as nobody in the FIFA delegations will vote for them (IF they actually care about the xenophobic behaviour, unlike UEFA and the FA).

I'm a History teacher and no kid I teach thinks like this or has any gripe with Germany. I've been there loads it's a great country. We have much more in common with them than the idiots who follow England think.
Its why I can't support England with any conviction. Just embarrassing.

 

[Preki]

Totally agree with the Cornish fella I should have added.

 

[TaffyToffee85]

I'm a History teacher and no kid I teach thinks like this or has any gripe with Germany. I've been there loads it's a great country. We have much more in common with them than the idiots who follow England think.
Its why I can't support England with any conviction. Just embarrassing.

Always been welcomed there brilliantly every time I’ve been. Fantastic beer, sausages, film industry, music industry thanks to Rammstein and have made many friends on my trips there, having been to quite a few gigs on U.K. bands Euro tours.

When I was at school in year seven, I used to be constantly bullied in which my so called classmates would do graffitis insulting me. One of the German teachers who would travel from Düsseldorf twice a week in his Vauxhall Cavilier to teach us, actually saw one of the graffitis and got incredibly disgusted by it. He shown it to the deputy head and she apparently lost it. When registration began, he took the job over from our form tutor who he would teach us alongside him, so he could express his disgust at the graffiti. He told the whole form what he thought, said the deputy head lost it when he shown her and whoever did it should be very ashamed of themselves. He made them feel really small and they looked really guilty.

Since then for the rest of my time at the school right up to when I left after passing my GCSEs, they never did it again and left me alone and I have a German person to thank for that, as in the past when the other teachers told them off, it still carried on. The deputy head even when I moved to year eight, moved me into a different class because of the bullying graffitis and I couldn’t have been more happier for the rest of my schooling years.

Edgar, the German teacher went back to Düsseldorf for good, and I was really upset he was going, even one of the girls in my German class who fancied him cried her eyes out!.

 

[Jimishorts]

Always been welcomed there brilliantly every time I’ve been. Fantastic beer, sausages, film industry, music industry thanks to Rammstein and have made many friends on my trips there, having been to quite a few gigs on U.K. bands Euro tours.

When I was at school in year seven, I used to be constantly bullied in which my so called classmates would do graffitis insulting me. One of the German teachers who would travel from Düsseldorf twice a week in his Vauxhall Cavilier to teach us, actually saw one of the graffitis and got incredibly disgusted by it. He shown it to the deputy head and she apparently lost it. When registration began, he took the job over from our form tutor who he would teach us alongside him, so he could express his disgust at the graffiti. He told the whole form what he thought, said the deputy head lost it when he shown her and whoever did it should be very ashamed of themselves. He made them feel really small and they looked really guilty.

Since then for the rest of my time at the school right up to when I left after passing my GCSEs, they never did it again and left me alone and I have a German person to thank for that, as in the past when the other teachers told them off, it still carried on. The deputy head even when I moved to year eight, moved me into a different class because of the bullying graffitis and I couldn’t have been more happier for the rest of my schooling years.

Edgar, the German teacher went back to Düsseldorf for good, and I was really upset he was going, even one of the girls in my German class who fancied him cried her eyes out!.

Your German teacher used to drive from Germany to Wales (?) twice a week in a Vauxhall Cavalier.

Some commute that.

 

[TaffyToffee85]

Your German teacher used to drive from Germany to Wales (?) twice a week in a Vauxhall Cavalier.

Some commute that.

Yep, i thought he lived over here, then I saw a Cavalier in the school car park with German plates on.

 

[Jimishorts]

Yep, i thought he lived over here, then I saw a Cavalier in the school car park with German plates on.

Sure he wasn’t a drug smuggler with a part time teaching job cover?

 

[TaffyToffee85]

Three Lions is such an awful tuneless song. When it came out, I quite liked it, but since then it’s been overplayed time and time again and people boiling my p*ss saying “It’s coming home” all the time, just makes me hate it more. They even released it on vinyl for the first time lately and it only shifted 380 copies, which definitely isn’t a return on investment on the pressing plant budget alone.

Baddiel and Skinner are as funny as leprosy and their so-called “banter” about Jason Lee back in 1996 was despicable, let alone racist as Baddiel did black face in the sketches in which he played Lee and Skinner played Frank Clark, the then manager of Forest. When Forest sold him he blamed it on them for why they did and once said “It’s not nice, it’s not funny and it’s destroying my career”. Baddiel just replied with “He’s off to see the man from Del Monte”……

Roy Keane wasn’t afraid to tell it like it is in 2018 in regards to that song of theirs being quoted all summer long…..



“World in Motion” on the other hand is a belter and gets you in the mood for the game, even with me it did during 2018 when I wanted you lot to actually win. Three Lions just celebrates near-misses for some reason.

 

[duncs pigeon]

Three Lions is such an awful tuneless song. When it came out, I quite liked it, but since then it’s been overplayed time and time again and people boiling my p*ss saying “It’s coming home” all the time, just makes me hate it more. They even released it on vinyl for the first time lately and it only shifted 380 copies, which definitely isn’t a return on investment on the pressing plant budget alone.

Baddiel and Skinner are as funny as leprosy and their so-called “banter” about Jason Lee back in 1996 was despicable, let alone racist as Baddiel did black face in the sketches in which he played Lee and Skinner played Frank Clark, the then manager of Forest. When Forest sold him he blamed it on them for why they did and once said “It’s not nice, it’s not funny and it’s destroying my career”. Baddiel just replied with “He’s off to see the man from Del Monte”……

Roy Keane wasn’t afraid to tell it like it is in 2018 in regards to that song of theirs being quoted all summer long…..



“World in Motion” on the other hand is a belter and gets you in the mood for the game, even with me it did during 2018 when I wanted you lot to actually win. Three Lions just celebrates near-misses for some reason.

Bloody hell mate, you are one angry and disgruntled person. Because you dont like something doesnt mean other people cant as well. Regarding Its coming home, which I quite like, is not about a trophy coming home, but a festival of football being played in England for the first time in 30 years.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

Hard to know who these lefties hate more, themselves, England or Jews

Lol, what? If you don't support Ingerlund you're automatically a 'lefty'? Or a self hating anti-semite?

What a ridiculous thing to type.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

Despite being English by birth, I haven't supported England since I was a kid in '86, when almost half the team consisted of Everton players. I enjoy watching international football but I find it impossible to cheer for a team containing the likes of Gerrard, Henderson, 'Trent' etc.

Seeing all those bald Cockney fatties hurling abuse at German children or singing songs about a conflict that happened generations before they were born makes me cringe too. There's a fine line between patriotism and jingoism and I personally want no part of either.

And don't get me started on those balloons trying to connect winning a football match to Brexit being a success, when it's demonstrably been nothing but a disaster.

 

[Dixie_Toffee]

The FA, UEFA and all other associations are doing a really shitty job against all let's say "controversial" behaviors by fans. You can't force behaviors to change just by writing half-wit academic statements as your official announcements. It's just dull and provoking for fans to "revolt" against any association statement and claim their media generated tags by demonstrating an even more controversial behavior. The associations will never understand that, and they don't really want to understand it, cause they can always blame it on fans when it originally is their own fault.

If people are bred in a nationalistic environment as kids, later younger adults and finally adults, how can it be their own fault and not the state's? The FA slates people that its own beloved state has brought up. It's really convenient to blame the working class for their own faults!

So what I would like to do is raise a V against the football association and UEFA.

 

[Wolf8312]

I agree with every word. I also would like to add that England are making a very bad advert of themselves as a nation through this loud minority. Millions watched the game worldwide, millions use “social media”, so saw all the hateful tweets towards an infant while hearing the booing all game long and German anthem long beforehand.

How everyone sings the U.K. anthem with so much gusto as if it’s great really is annoying, even during the matches as a terrace chant. It’s a horrible dirge about a monarch like the guy in the video says, and that lot were derived from Nazis anyway, yet England fans love the Royals despite deriving from a country they seem to have so much hate for.

If England wants to keep bidding for international tournament hostings, it needs to sort its sh*t out, as nobody in the FIFA delegations will vote for them (IF they actually care about the xenophobic behaviour, unlike UEFA and the FA).

Fox news journalism. It's not a fair reflection of reality and just the media being selective with which particular moron they happen to focus on from the crowd or on Twitter.

Provide a few quotes from a few prats online (the origin of which nobody can really ascertain and may have come from online shills or trolls) and whip it up into a story under the banner "English Fans."

Thousands of people went to that game and the atmosphere was reported to be very fun and friendly, but of course, you can find a few prats in any stadium or online if that's the angle you're desperately looking for!

Why on earth would a mean tweet about an 8-year-old girl be newsworthy anyway? It's like reporting on something some idiot said in a pub and is not a fair representation of England or English fans! It is manipulative and agenda-driven like everything that comes from our modern media. They are the very last people to preach morality or ethics to anyone, just ask Jullian Assange...

Was that man in the video really booing an 8-year-old girl (I find it honestly hard to believe) or was it one shot of a little girl crying shown before/after another shot of a booing supporter? Could he even see her or was he just booing Germany in general?