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peteblue said:
Roll on a GE. Not a reborn Corbyn v Maybot, but a now found out Corbyn v Boris, it will be a walkover for Boris......and you know it......
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Everyone's entitled to their opinion but I really hope @peteblue is the first to lose his job in a no deal Brexit, following which I hope the delays in getting universal credit push him to the brink. I hope his family rue the day we sold out the NHS and i hope he gets burgled but police resources don't stretch to investigating. No offence Pete and otherwise I wish you a long and happy life.
 
mellowblue said:
Meanwhile back on fantasy island.........do you agree with the comments he endorsed as editor of the Spectator vilifying the people of Liverpool? he'd better not show his face here again.
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Of course not, it was lazy journalism, just like those who refer to ‘self pity city’. It’s crass and obnoxious but he is not the first nor will be the last to do so. Even the fact of your challenging me to agree or disagree helps to maintain this ridiculous image. Let it go and have a go at him for what he does or does not do for the city. I’ve had to listen to the ‘thieving scouser’, ‘self pity city’ and ‘cars on bricks’ crap for too long and from too many people to let it get to me. Deal with it by ignoring it....or go and give him a smack, but stop the whinging, sorry, that’s another one we get.......
 
NilSatisOptimum said:
So what's the early bidding on his majority will he even reach the much predicted 100 seat majority that May was going to get, that hoodwinked her in to calling an early election?
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It’s going to be a very strange one and depending on if we leave or not.

If we do then the Tories will walk it.

If we don’t then I think the Tories will be wiped out. The Brexit party will hoover up a large majority of leave votes, Labour and the LibDems will be competing for the Remain vote. Tory remain constituencies will still vote Tory, as I think will Scottish Tories, tory leave constituencies will vote BP as will Labour Leave constituencies.

So if we don’t leave then the Tories will be unaffected by Labour nor the LibDems, they will only lose votes to BP.

Labour will lose votes to BP and perhaps some to the LD’s, they will not gain any from the Tories.

The LD’s will make no gain in Tory seats but will take some from Labour

BP will take both Tory and Labour seats.

So in a no leave scenario we could see either a Labour/ LD grouping, a BP/Tory grouping (which I would doubt) or even an outright BP win. At this point no one has a bleeding clue. I hope this helps......
 
peteblue said:
Excellent, have you got a similar one supporting Jews or Israel......
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  • Corbyn organised the Apr. 1977 defence of Jewish populated Wood Green from a Neo-Nazi march

  • EDM3933 7 Nov. 1990: Corbyn signs motion condemning the rise of antisemitism

  • EDM634, 11 Apr. 2000: Jeremy Corbyn signs motion condemning David Irving for being a Holocaust Denier

  • EDM1124, 6 Nov. 2000: Jeremy Corbyn praised the ‘British Schindler’, Bill Barazetti, for his WW2 kindertransport

  • EDM742, 28 Jan. 2002: Jeremy Corbyn signs motion praising football clubs for commemorating Holocaust Day

  • EDM1233 30 Apr. 2002: Corbyn was a primary sponsor on a motion condemning antisemitism

  • 11 May 2002: Jeremy led a clean up of Finsbury Park Synagogue after an anti-Semitic attack

  • EDM1691, 23 July 2002: Corbyn condemned attacks on a synagogue in Swansea

  • EDM123 26 Nov. 2003: Corbyn officially condemns attacks on 2 Istanbul synagogues

  • EDM298, 16 Dec. 2003: Jeremy Corbyn signs motion commemorating International Holocaust Day

  • 2004: Jeremy condemned news that anti-Semitic hate crimes had risen for yet another year

  • EDM461, 21 Jan. 2004: Jeremy Corbyn condemned the French government’s moves to ban the Jewish Kippa in French Schools

  • EDM717, 26 Feb. 2004: Jeremy signed a motion praising Simon Wiesenthal for bringing Nazi perpetrators of the Holocaust to justice

  • EDM1613, 8 Sept. 2004: Corbyn co-sponsored a bill expressing fears for the future of the United Synagogue Pension Scheme

  • EDM1699, 11 Oct. 2004: Jeremy Corbyn condemned arbitrary attacks on civilians in Israel and Palestine

  • EDM482, 12 Jan. 2005: Jeremy Corbyn signs a motion commemorating International Holocaust Day

  • EDM343, 16 June 2005: Jeremy condemned the desecration of a Jewish cemetery in east London

  • EDM1343, 11 Jan. 2006: Jeremy Corbyn signs a motion commemorating International Holocaust Day

  • EDM1774, 8 Mar. 2006: Jeremy Corbyn led condemnations of an Iranian Magazine soliciting cartoons about the Holocaust

  • EDM1267, 16 Apr. 2006: Jeremy Corbyn condemned Bryan Ferry for anti-Semitic remarks

  • EDM2414, 26 June 2006: Jeremy Corbyn praised British war veterans for their efforts to combat the Holocaust

  • EDM2705, 10 Oct. 2006: Jeremy signed a motion marking the 70th anniversary of Cable Street

  • EDM271, 14 Nov. 2007: Jeremy co-sponsored a motion lamenting the poverty and social exclusion East London Jews suffered

  • EDM153, 12 May 2008: Corbyn praised the efforts of the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto during the uprising of 1944

  • EDM2350, 27 Oct 2008: Jeremy Corbyn signs a motion marking the 70th anniversary of the horrors of the holocaust

  • EDM173, 8 Dec. 2008: Jeremy condemned the Press Complaints Commission for refusing to sanction The Times for antisemitism

  • EDM461, 14 Jan. 2009: Jeremy Corbyn condemned a wave of recent anti-Semitic incidents targeted

  • EDM605, 27 Jan. 2009: Corbyn signed John Mann’s motion condemning antisemitism on university campuses

  • EDM917 26 Feb. 2009: Jeremy signs a motion condemning antisemitism on the internet

  • EDM1175 24 Mar. 2009: Corbyn signs a motion praising the heroism of British Jews during Holocaust

  • EDM337, 2 Dec. 2009: Jeremy Condemned Iran’s treatment of Jewish minorities in Iran

  • EDM850 9 Feb. 2010: Jeremy joins in calls for Facebook to do more to fight antisemitism

  • EDM891: 22 Feb 2010: Corbyn co-sponsors a motion calling for Yemen’s Jews to be given refugee status to the UK

  • EDM908 27 Oct. 2010: Corbyn praises work of late Israeli PM in his pursuit of a 2 state solution

  • EDM1360, 27 Jan. 2011: Corbyn co-sponsored a motion praising the ‘never again for anyone initiative’

  • EDM1527, 3 Mar. 2011: Corbyn backed Ian Paisley’s motion condemning the anti-Semitic remarks of Dior’s lead fashion designer

  • EDM2870, 14 Mar. 2012: Jeremy Corbyn condemned the sale of Nazi memorabilia at an auction in Bristol

  • EDM2866, 14 Mar 2012: Jeremy Corbyn co-sponsored a bill condemning the rise of antisemitism in Lithuania

  • EDM2899, 20 Mar. 2012, Jeremy Corbyn condemned a terrorist attack on a Jewish school in Toulouse

  • EDM168, 12 June 2012, Jeremy co-sponsored a motion condemning anti-Semitic attacks during EURO 2012 in Poland

  • EDM 195 13 June 2012: Jeremy attacks BBC for cutting Jewish programmes from Its schedule

  • EDM 1133 1 Mar 2013: Corbyn joins a chorus of calls condemning antisemitism In sport

  • 1 Oct. 2013: Corbyn was one of the few MPs who defended Ralph Miliband from Daily Mail antisemitism

  • EDM 932 9 Jan 2014: Jeremy praises Holocaust Memorial’s work on antisemitism education

  • EDM 165 22 June 2015: Jeremy condemns a Neo-Nazi rally planned for a Jewish area of London

  • Sat 4 July 2015: Jeremy co-planned a counter-fascist demo in defence of Jewish residents at Golders Green. The march was re-routed

  • 18 Nov. 2015, Corbyn used one of his first PMQs to challenge Cameron to do more on antisemiUsm

  • 9 Oct 2016: Corbyn, close to tears, leads commemoration of the Battle of Cable Street

  • 3 Dec. 2016: Corbyn visits Terezin Concentration Camp to commemorate Holocaust victims

  • In 2017-19 Jeremy introduced 20 new measures to combat antisemitism in the Labour Party
 
peteblue said:
It’s going to be a very strange one and depending on if we leave or not.

If we do then the Tories will walk it.

If we don’t then I think the Tories will be wiped out. The Brexit party will hoover up a large majority of leave votes, Labour and the LibDems will be competing for the Remain vote. Tory remain constituencies will still vote Tory, as I think will Scottish Tories, tory leave constituencies will vote BP as will Labour Leave constituencies.

So if we don’t leave then the Tories will be unaffected by Labour nor the LibDems, they will only lose votes to BP.

Labour will lose votes to BP and perhaps some to the LD’s, they will not gain any from the Tories.

The LD’s will make no gain in Tory seats but will take some from Labour

BP will take both Tory and Labour seats.

So in a no leave scenario we could see either a Labour/ LD grouping, a BP/Tory grouping (which I would doubt) or even an outright BP win. At this point no one has a bleeding clue. I hope this helps......
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They will have to have an election as soon as possible after Brexit, or (more likely) as an attempt to "save Brexit". Otherwise they'll be crushed by reality.
 
peteblue said:
It’s going to be a very strange one and depending on if we leave or not.

If we do then the Tories will walk it.

If we don’t then I think the Tories will be wiped out. The Brexit party will hoover up a large majority of leave votes, Labour and the LibDems will be competing for the Remain vote. Tory remain constituencies will still vote Tory, as I think will Scottish Tories, tory leave constituencies will vote BP as will Labour Leave constituencies.

So if we don’t leave then the Tories will be unaffected by Labour nor the LibDems, they will only lose votes to BP.

Labour will lose votes to BP and perhaps some to the LD’s, they will not gain any from the Tories.

The LD’s will make no gain in Tory seats but will take some from Labour

BP will take both Tory and Labour seats.

So in a no leave scenario we could see either a Labour/ LD grouping, a BP/Tory grouping (which I would doubt) or even an outright BP win. At this point no one has a bleeding clue. I hope this helps......
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Ignoring the vacuous rhetoric on no deal leave 31st October we are not leaving...
 
johnblue23 said:
  • Corbyn organised the Apr. 1977 defence of Jewish populated Wood Green from a Neo-Nazi march

  • EDM3933 7 Nov. 1990: Corbyn signs motion condemning the rise of antisemitism

  • EDM634, 11 Apr. 2000: Jeremy Corbyn signs motion condemning David Irving for being a Holocaust Denier

  • EDM1124, 6 Nov. 2000: Jeremy Corbyn praised the ‘British Schindler’, Bill Barazetti, for his WW2 kindertransport

  • EDM742, 28 Jan. 2002: Jeremy Corbyn signs motion praising football clubs for commemorating Holocaust Day

  • EDM1233 30 Apr. 2002: Corbyn was a primary sponsor on a motion condemning antisemitism

  • 11 May 2002: Jeremy led a clean up of Finsbury Park Synagogue after an anti-Semitic attack

  • EDM1691, 23 July 2002: Corbyn condemned attacks on a synagogue in Swansea

  • EDM123 26 Nov. 2003: Corbyn officially condemns attacks on 2 Istanbul synagogues

  • EDM298, 16 Dec. 2003: Jeremy Corbyn signs motion commemorating International Holocaust Day

  • 2004: Jeremy condemned news that anti-Semitic hate crimes had risen for yet another year

  • EDM461, 21 Jan. 2004: Jeremy Corbyn condemned the French government’s moves to ban the Jewish Kippa in French Schools

  • EDM717, 26 Feb. 2004: Jeremy signed a motion praising Simon Wiesenthal for bringing Nazi perpetrators of the Holocaust to justice

  • EDM1613, 8 Sept. 2004: Corbyn co-sponsored a bill expressing fears for the future of the United Synagogue Pension Scheme

  • EDM1699, 11 Oct. 2004: Jeremy Corbyn condemned arbitrary attacks on civilians in Israel and Palestine

  • EDM482, 12 Jan. 2005: Jeremy Corbyn signs a motion commemorating International Holocaust Day

  • EDM343, 16 June 2005: Jeremy condemned the desecration of a Jewish cemetery in east London

  • EDM1343, 11 Jan. 2006: Jeremy Corbyn signs a motion commemorating International Holocaust Day

  • EDM1774, 8 Mar. 2006: Jeremy Corbyn led condemnations of an Iranian Magazine soliciting cartoons about the Holocaust

  • EDM1267, 16 Apr. 2006: Jeremy Corbyn condemned Bryan Ferry for anti-Semitic remarks

  • EDM2414, 26 June 2006: Jeremy Corbyn praised British war veterans for their efforts to combat the Holocaust

  • EDM2705, 10 Oct. 2006: Jeremy signed a motion marking the 70th anniversary of Cable Street

  • EDM271, 14 Nov. 2007: Jeremy co-sponsored a motion lamenting the poverty and social exclusion East London Jews suffered

  • EDM153, 12 May 2008: Corbyn praised the efforts of the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto during the uprising of 1944

  • EDM2350, 27 Oct 2008: Jeremy Corbyn signs a motion marking the 70th anniversary of the horrors of the holocaust

  • EDM173, 8 Dec. 2008: Jeremy condemned the Press Complaints Commission for refusing to sanction The Times for antisemitism

  • EDM461, 14 Jan. 2009: Jeremy Corbyn condemned a wave of recent anti-Semitic incidents targeted

  • EDM605, 27 Jan. 2009: Corbyn signed John Mann’s motion condemning antisemitism on university campuses

  • EDM917 26 Feb. 2009: Jeremy signs a motion condemning antisemitism on the internet

  • EDM1175 24 Mar. 2009: Corbyn signs a motion praising the heroism of British Jews during Holocaust

  • EDM337, 2 Dec. 2009: Jeremy Condemned Iran’s treatment of Jewish minorities in Iran

  • EDM850 9 Feb. 2010: Jeremy joins in calls for Facebook to do more to fight antisemitism

  • EDM891: 22 Feb 2010: Corbyn co-sponsors a motion calling for Yemen’s Jews to be given refugee status to the UK

  • EDM908 27 Oct. 2010: Corbyn praises work of late Israeli PM in his pursuit of a 2 state solution

  • EDM1360, 27 Jan. 2011: Corbyn co-sponsored a motion praising the ‘never again for anyone initiative’

  • EDM1527, 3 Mar. 2011: Corbyn backed Ian Paisley’s motion condemning the anti-Semitic remarks of Dior’s lead fashion designer

  • EDM2870, 14 Mar. 2012: Jeremy Corbyn condemned the sale of Nazi memorabilia at an auction in Bristol

  • EDM2866, 14 Mar 2012: Jeremy Corbyn co-sponsored a bill condemning the rise of antisemitism in Lithuania

  • EDM2899, 20 Mar. 2012, Jeremy Corbyn condemned a terrorist attack on a Jewish school in Toulouse

  • EDM168, 12 June 2012, Jeremy co-sponsored a motion condemning anti-Semitic attacks during EURO 2012 in Poland

  • EDM 195 13 June 2012: Jeremy attacks BBC for cutting Jewish programmes from Its schedule

  • EDM 1133 1 Mar 2013: Corbyn joins a chorus of calls condemning antisemitism In sport

  • 1 Oct. 2013: Corbyn was one of the few MPs who defended Ralph Miliband from Daily Mail antisemitism

  • EDM 932 9 Jan 2014: Jeremy praises Holocaust Memorial’s work on antisemitism education

  • EDM 165 22 June 2015: Jeremy condemns a Neo-Nazi rally planned for a Jewish area of London

  • Sat 4 July 2015: Jeremy co-planned a counter-fascist demo in defence of Jewish residents at Golders Green. The march was re-routed

  • 18 Nov. 2015, Corbyn used one of his first PMQs to challenge Cameron to do more on antisemiUsm

  • 9 Oct 2016: Corbyn, close to tears, leads commemoration of the Battle of Cable Street

  • 3 Dec. 2016: Corbyn visits Terezin Concentration Camp to commemorate Holocaust victims

  • In 2017-19 Jeremy introduced 20 new measures to combat antisemitism in the Labour Party
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But joey read the synopsis of a book once
 
I'm currently watching a documentary called 'Life Of Earth From Space' talking about evolution and that.

It feels like in the past twenty years we've been going backwards, from Blair and Alastair Campbell lying through their front teeth, killing hundreds of thousands in the process, to the bankers getting off scott free under Labour whilst the axe falls on the most needful in our society under the Tories, to a man who is utterly incompetent lying through his front teeth on the biggest decision this country has had to make now being made PM. All the meanwhile, everyone laughs at the delightful Jo Swinson :(
 
orly said:
The thing is, it's a great video (although why they think we all rate Davies is beyond me) and Thursday is a key day, but those leaked docs have already shown the stadium. We know what it will look like.
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peteblue said:
Of course not, it was lazy journalism, just like those who refer to ‘self pity city’. It’s crass and obnoxious but he is not the first nor will be the last to do so. Even the fact of your challenging me to agree or disagree helps to maintain this ridiculous image. Let it go and have a go at him for what he does or does not do for the city. I’ve had to listen to the ‘thieving scouser’, ‘self pity city’ and ‘cars on bricks’ crap for too long and from too many people to let it get to me. Deal with it by ignoring it....or go and give him a smack, but stop the whinging, sorry, that’s another one we get.......
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Crass and obnoxious but a superb leader in your eyes?
Time will tell of course! It is going to be an interesting few months...
 
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