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Joey66 said:
Our vaccine roll out while the talking shop of the EU bickered -- they eventually caught up with us - it's early days as the war in the Ukraine -Covid - have caused a world recession.....energy wise we are in a better position than Putin's imported gas to the EU - Germany have started opening coal mines for electricity ..

Time will tell but the Conservatives have not handled anything well they want strikes a winter of discontent, purely to try & get back in in two years time -playing games the pi licthis time will not be deceived......

No Corbynism will help - they are not going to rejoin the EU -many will return to vote for them ....they need to get in with a majority though....why we don't invest in tidal energy is bewildering......
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You do realise Covid wasn’t a thing when people voted for Brexit, right?

You’ve just told me everything I need to know about the kind of people that voted for Brexit…. Ill informed numpties!
 
larrygobfiend said:
You do realise Covid wasn’t a thing when people voted for Brexit, right?

You’ve just told me everything I need to know about the kind of people that voted for Brexit…. Ill informed numpties!
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I'm not sure those who voted for Brexit think Covid is a thing either tbh

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larrygobfiend said:
You do realise Covid wasn’t a thing when people voted for Brexit, right?

You’ve just told me everything I need to know about the kind of people that voted for Brexit…. Ill informed numpties!
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A world pandemic & a war by Putin will not affect any economy worldwide ? Blame Brexit for anything ......hard to implement it under these circumstances & the Tories have imploded, think back in the 12 years the damage Osbourne & Cameron did to this country when austerity was never needed .... thats where the damage was done everywhere in our economy

So why are Labour stating they are going to live with it ? Are you a Lib Dem, as they are the only party advocating to rejoin the EU ......

Also, we would never get back in on the allegedly favourable terms they offered 12 billion plus we paid 6 billion for them to tell us how to spend that 6 billion - & we were governed by their European law courts if Labour put that back on the table they lost by 80 seats last time - they know they would struggle to win the next GE, even against this shower of crap, but, my family & I will vote for the first time in many years to remove this Conservative Government, by voting Labour on the platform they are standing on ....
 
Joey66 said:
A world pandemic & a war by Putin will not affect any economy worldwide ? Blame Brexit for anything ......hard to implement it under these circumstances & the Tories have imploded, think back in the 12 years the damage Osbourne & Cameron did to this country when austerity was never needed .... thats where the damage was done everywhere in our economy

So why are Labour stating they are going to live with it ? Are you a Lib Dem, as they are the only party advocating to rejoin the EU ......

Also, we would never get back in on the allegedly favourable terms they offered 12 billion plus we paid 6 billion for them to tell us how to spend that 6 billion - & we were governed by their European law courts if Labour put that back on the table they lost by 80 seats last time - they know they would struggle to win the next GE, even against this shower of crap, but, my family & I will vote for the first time in many years to remove this Conservative Government, by voting Labour on the platform they are standing on ....
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Labour will live with it for tactical reasons mate, to get elected.

They will then renegotiate to solve the unanswered questions, and we will end up with something close to the single market.

If the tories lose heavily, there will be a mandate for another referendum, probably on the basis of the negotiated deal v rejoin.

Thats how it probably plays out.
 
Joey66 said:
A world pandemic & a war by Putin will not affect any economy worldwide ? Blame Brexit for anything ......hard to implement it under these circumstances & the Tories have imploded, think back in the 12 years the damage Osbourne & Cameron did to this country when austerity was never needed .... thats where the damage was done everywhere in our economy

So why are Labour stating they are going to live with it ? Are you a Lib Dem, as they are the only party advocating to rejoin the EU ......

Also, we would never get back in on the allegedly favourable terms they offered 12 billion plus we paid 6 billion for them to tell us how to spend that 6 billion - & we were governed by their European law courts if Labour put that back on the table they lost by 80 seats last time - they know they would struggle to win the next GE, even against this shower of crap, but, my family & I will vote for the first time in many years to remove this Conservative Government, by voting Labour on the platform they are standing on ....
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I’d argue that a divided, post Brexit Europe emboldened Putin to have a crack at Ukraine. After all, it’s widely reported that Russian interference affected the result.

Brexit has massively screwed up the country and deep down you know it. I’m still waiting for you to provide one Brexit benefit for the average person in the UK.
 
larrygobfiend said:
I’d argue that a divided, post Brexit Europe emboldened Putin to have a crack at Ukraine. After all, it’s widely reported that Russian interference affected the result.

Brexit has massively screwed up the country and deep down you know it. I’m still waiting for you to provide one Brexit benefit for the average person in the UK.
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We are saving 18 billion per year, even though 6 billion of that was a rebate of the EU telling us how to spend it .....

If we get beat v Wolves, are you blaming that on Brexit too?
 
catcherintherye said:
Labour will live with it for tactical reasons mate, to get elected.

They will then renegotiate to solve the unanswered questions, and we will end up with something close to the single market.

If the tories lose heavily, there will be a mandate for another referendum, probably on the basis of the negotiated deal v rejoin.

Thats how it probably plays out.
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Then get thrown out yet again .... political suicide if you believe that.... Trade OK - being governed by them with far right UK MEPs, do you really want that again ?
 
Joey66 said:
Then get thrown out yet again .... political suicide if you believe that.... Trade OK - being governed by them with far right UK MEPs, do you really want that again ?
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I doubt they will get kicked out again mate. The tories are very unpopular, and will likely be out for 3 or 4 cycles. Given their demographic vote base, they may well be wiped out after that.

Renegotiating and giving people a vote will be very popular too, so will only strengthen their position, as they will have resolved the contradictions in Brexit.
 
catcherintherye said:
I doubt they will get kicked out again mate. The tories are very unpopular, and will likely be out for 3 or 4 cycles. Given their demographic vote base, they may well be wiped out after that.

Renegotiating and giving people a vote will be very popular too, so will only strengthen their position, as they will have resolved the contradictions in Brexit.
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Dream on ......
 
Joey66 said:
Dream on ......
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Its nota case of dreaming on Joey. I'm just telling you what's likely to play out.

People increasingly dislike Brexit, so will be happy to get a vote.

You will get your chance to vote for a Brexit where we square the contradiction, which is going to involve rejoining the single market. There will have to be a hefty fee for that though.
 
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